https://www.forbes.com/sites/shaheenajanjuhajivrajeurope/2026/10/19/big-names-will-recover-from-frances-riots-family-shops-may-not/

https://www.irishtimes.com/world/europe/2026/10/19/theres-nothing-left-french-businesses-count-the-cost-of-a-weekend-of-unrest/

https://www.euronews.com/2026/10/20/frances-riot-damage-doubles-who-will-pay-for-thousands-of-wrecked-shops

Ironically enough, the big multinational shopping centers will be the ones most likely to recover. Half the businesses lacked loss of activity coverage, and there were plenty of them that had to wait half a year or more for any payout. Thinking there were no bankruptcies is ignorance beyond belief.

Just because you don’t see or care about owners having to pass down their businesses and just treat them like faceless stores doesn’t mean they aren’t forced to roll over. It’s like claiming who cares about riot police being violent with protestors when they can just go to the hospital.

You know how the economy is, and you are choosing to victim blame the riot victims if they are “stupid” enough not to be able to get back on their feet, no matter if they have literally nothing to do with what the protests are supposedly against. Just don’t be surprised when your rationale ends up with those shops eventually ending up in the hands of the large multinationals that can survive it and the society becomes even more dystopian.

That’s not how insurance works. It covers only a small part of the losses, and only for the shops that can afford the rising rates for a decent one.

Small amount of looting? That has absolutely destroyed the livelihood of some of the small shop owners while also negatively affecting the local economies for the foreseeable future. Meanwhile, mansions, multinational offices, and banks, y’know, the ones belonging to the supposed oligarchs pushing the ever-diminishing standards of living have remained untouched.

Face it, the protests have been hijacked by criminal opportunists with the barest facade of an excuse, and far from it being just “USians” condemning it, now every far-right social network in every part of the world pushed into the feeds by their respective Musks is taking advantage of the mayhem to associate it to their opposition and to top it off with a heavy dose of racism. Seeing Paris burned down by people who are students in facade only (and it’s easy to tell the rioters from the students actually protesting) has absolutely fed the growth of the far right across multiple countries while doing little to economically help anyone but the looters who help themselves.

Musk has perfected the art of bedazzling people with precision controlled compressed gaslighting.

Now? He’s made it clear where he was heading since last year.

What a garbage spew of accusations. This thread is about climate change, and it’s clearly you want to derail with a lot of baggage, which ironically enough, one side is still considerably worse than the other for each and every issue you try to shotgun with. I doubt you are American, and I doubt the why of each needs to be explained in anything other than an theathered echo-chamber.

You are both-siding this and appealing to perfection as a solution, both common appeals used in manipulation, just like the majority of this theater is doing.

Again, and again, and again, and again, and again …

When you have slave labor and authoritarian control, building aesthetic wonders is easy.

Also, horrible example, coke is not water, yet you both-sides it because “it is a coke product”. Plenty of differences, a lot of them directly affecting people’s health. Or perhaps as apt as you obliviousness of how bad of a gaslight it is.

Just say what you mean, “it is a coke product” is a metaphor for “it is influenced by American lobbyists” so you imply people should both-sides it and apply no nuance.

The last rebuttal with hard facts and links just made you spew a word salad of gaslighting while ignoring anything you were offered. I don’t have any hope for you, I’m just annotating for other readers caught up in the theater.

What a garbage spew of accusations. This thread is about climate change, and it’s clearly you want to derail with a lot of baggage, which ironically enough, one side is still considerably worse than the other for each and every issue you try to shotgun with. I doubt you are American, and I doubt the why of each needs to be explained in anything other than an theathered echo-chamber.

You are both-siding this and appealing to perfection as a solution, both common appeals used in manipulation, just like the majority of this theater is doing.

Again, and again, and again, and again, and again …

is a Russian psyop

Your words, not his. Plenty of troll factories and gullible groups around the world, but the money pours down from where it pours down.

Both sides are not the same, one has been way worse for the environment than the other, the majority of this thread is rife with ignorance, plenty of it wilful. This thread might as well be called a theater.

• https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/climate/trump-environment-rollbacks-list.html
• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environmental_policy_of_the_first_Trump_administration
• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environmental_policy_of_the_second_Trump_administration

You are both-siding this and appealing to perfection as a solution, both common appeals used in manipulation, just like the majority of this theater is doing.

Pretty much, sadly it describes the majority of Lemmy as a whole given its foundation.

You can bet your ass there is foreign influence in these protests. The would-be rioters have been profiled into groups so well trained they look like ninjas by the same types of social networks that later use their actions to promote hate and politics against them. This will boost Marine Le Pen, this will drive costs up, and this will do little to help the actual protestors who have become a tool for it all.

He’s the one casting Stupefy.

Seems a bit like anti Local LLM propaganda to begin getting the ball rolling on subscription based LLMs being the only LLMs people have access to.

They’ve been doing everything to try to keep the technology from the general public, from helping to condemn any use of it (even that not owned by corporates and dedicated to allowing open access to it, which many people willfully play along to) to passing it off as a threat that needs to be under control (not by governments, just their own PR stunts with certain mouthpieces). This with the price of computers skyrocketing is helping keep away any possibility of this technology being owned by anyone but the major circlejerking multinational pricefixing corporations.

Or maybe it’s just a study.

There needs to be a list of instances that defederate lemmy.ml by default. It’s not just a single community, it is at the admin level.