This is one sample visit to the conservative subreddit. It’s an appalling example of the impact of disinformation. When you need to be reminded of who the enemy is and what they think, visit here. You will see that there is no gratitude or mutual respect, and there never was. There was never any concept of mutual benefit. And now, with Trump leading the cult, there truly is no depth to which they won’t go, and no decisions from Trump that won’t be retroactively justified.

These people are dangerous, and they don’t give a shit about any alliances, friendship or partnership. And they control the levers of power.

Edit to add a screenshot. Not sure how to add more, but it doesn’t get any better as you go deeper. What’s clear is that this relationship is over, and we need to move on.

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    0.2% of fentanyl inflow and 1.5% of migrants come via Canada. Both those justifications are just propaganda designed to manufacture consent for further pressure to push Canada to allow more influence by the malign forces that have pervaded the US. It’s just the next step by oligarchs.

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    Their edit is one of the stupidest things I have read in a minute. Everything about it is like an amateurs first attempt at international relations, but the only book they had on hand is “Learn Your ABCs”.

    “Technically an act of war!! Concerning!! Fentanyl!! Just want Canada to be safe for trade!!” It’s just word vomit; it has no base in reality.

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    Yeah, a trade war with Canada is easy to win for the US

    A trade war with Canada and Mexico is a bit tougher, the two biggest trading partners, pretty much

    Mexico, Canada and China is tough

    Mexico l, China, Canada, and the EU? You’re fucked US

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        Sanctioning China means a lot less when they’ve got half a dozen unaligned economies to back door and a voracious domestic economy to feed.

        Sanctioning Canada is a bigger deal because of how much of the urban center is just plastered in a thin layer over America’s northern border. Toronto, Windsor, and Vancouver can’t function without access to their direct southern neighbors.

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    Conservative voters are the dumbest fucking things, I swear. They go on about patriotism, yet want nothing more than to watch the downfall of their countries. Pathetic.

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      Conservative voters are the dumbest fucking things, I swear.

      I did not mean that Conservatives are generally stupid; I meant, that stupid persons are generally Conservative

      • John Stuart Mill
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      As a Canadian, I read that conservative reply and just think “Holy shit is this a dumb fucking American.”

      I’m really glad that these are the types of Americans that don’t cross the border because that means leaving their emotional support gun at home.

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        As a Canadian, you realize that we have Maga dipshits up here, and that members of the Canadian conservative governments have been seen sporting MAGA hats? And that the candidate for the federal Conservates was out there supporting the Dipshit trucker convoy? And that he has also suggested ditching CAD for bitcoin?

        Our cons are fucking dumb as fuck just like the rest, and we have people stupid enough to want to vote them in. And thanks to FPTP and 3 parties, they often stand the best chance of winning because the right don’t have anybody to split the vote like the left does.

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          Small nitpick. The ones in charge aren’t dumb they’re dangerous and they’re feeding off a dumb segment of the population that has been conditioned for this through a steady diet of bullshit from social media.

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            Very good point, and I’ve actually always put the voters at the bottom of the barrel of intelligence. Any stupid person could run for government, but it takes some especially fucking stupid people to action vote for them.

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      And cheer on dictators who offered $5k for each American soldier they killed.

      It’s just a cult - they don’t stand for country, freedom (lol), military, or anyone but themselves. Conservatism at it’s core is caring more about yourself than others.

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    The problem is that we no longer agree on what reality is with Trump sycophants. For them lies are truth, night is day, less then 1% of fentanyl is a national emergency, etc even when presented with facts and objectivity. It’s legit terrifying and I don’t know how to fix it. I don’t know how our politicans are able to deal with people they can’t share reality with. Canada’s going to bear the brunt of US delusion and unreality.

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      I found this video interesting, about Bonhoeffer’s theory of stupidity and how it relates to Arendt’s investigation into what made Nazis do what they did. In brief, he characterises stupidity as not just ignorance, but ignorance that resists and is opposed to learning, and he said this stupidity could be a more damaging force than evil.

      https://youtu.be/53ZaXpIn2fg

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      “The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction (i.e., the reality of experience) and the distinction between true and false (i.e., the standards of thought) no longer exist.” Hannah Arendt.

      You are right: They are no longer a part of our reality.

      They exist in a twilight zone of their own making; able to be convinced, either by their paternalists or their own community, of any lie.

      The rational were pushed out or scapegoated over time until only madness remained—as it does now.

      The only good thing about cults of personality is that they tend to collapse when the personality does. One of the bad things is that they tend to take everyone with them on their way to collapse.

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    Doubling down on tribalism won’t save us from their ignorance. The degradation of a unified society by means of Us vs. Them thinking is how we got here in the first place and how things continue to get worse.

    There are those at the fringes of that style of thinking that can be reached by those of us who are adjacent to them (via family, mutual friends, workplaces, etc.). Those folks at the fringes can reach those adjacent to them. We’ll never get 100% of them on side but we can at least weaken the well-funded machine that continues to keep them uninformed by relating to people as human beings instead of stoking division like oligarchs intend for us to do.

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      Putin Bots and Xi’s $0.50 Army

      Trying to explain to everyone who will listen that Jeff Bezos got rich doing Fivr jobs for the Chinese Communist Party, but they just keep laughing and dunking my head in the toilet.

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    I used to read it to see what conservatives were thinking. There used to be actual discourse in the comments about policy positions. It’s now nothing more than brainrot and Russian trolls.

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      Has anyone found the secret spot where conservatives act normal and explain their reasoning? Please don’t make me install nextdoor

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        Last time I had a “conservative act normal and explain their reasoning” they sounded like a toddler trying to explain the world to me. Lol

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      Yeah, seen my fair share of conservatives fail to preface their shock and disagreement with something with a lengthy apologia and get the banhammer for being a ‘brigadier’.

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    All of these comments are severely downvoted. What are you every saying here? That one incredibly unpopular opinion represents them all?

    Don’t get me wrong, fuck them all. But this is such a stupid argument for your hate.

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      I don’t need r/Conservative as an argument for my hate. Listen to Rogan, or read any one of the dozens of other threads at that sub. Or even look a bit deeper in that post.

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      That happens when r/conservative gets to the front page where they are pant’ed/ brigaded.

      They do not reach those numbers on their own, and the most heinous shit is defended by the mods with the same voracity as Reagan

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    Lmao.

    “My act of war is not an act of war. Your response to it is!!!” - Trump Sheep #15674

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      I mean, this is basically how the US enters every war - from Iraq to Korea to the Spanish American war to 1812.

      Hell, the Civil War started with Confederate cannon shells being viciously assaulted by Fort Sumtner’s barricades.

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      Funny, it’s exactly what Putin said about Ukraine. That and “It’s not a real country,” which Elon Musk recently said of Canada.

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      I mean, it tracks with their view of the Ukraine situation as well.

      It also tracks with the general conservative mindset that the “in group” is protected by laws, but not beholden to them; while the “out group” is beholden to laws, but not protected by them.

      Which all tracks with having the mindset of a toddler, free of any shred of empathy, where, until proven otherwise every other person in existence is by default just an NPC without agency or self-determination.