TL;DR - Lemmy’s userbase compare to Reddit just feel more angry and it so offputting when asking a question and getting an answer that sound like their pissed off. Feels oddly worse than Reddit.
Honestly, I want to like Lemmy as I want to try not use Reddit as much. The thing that is holding me back is I hate the users on Lemmy which their often passive aggressive and really snarky. I know Reddit does have those people but I always seen more them on Lemmy where I barely used it as much.
I asked on AskLemmy community if there’s any Gen-Z community around, ideally just talking about nostalgia and stuff like that. Nothing malicious at all. Then got a angry reply saying “Fuck Gen-what, just join community and post!” and telling me about generation are there to “divide” people. Apparently, me asking community which mainly be me talking about cartoon and games I grow up with is evil.
If the tone was at least “This may not matter as much and you find it better picking any community that in your best interest” then I’m be alright, it the way they seem pissed at me for even asking it like I’m an idiot which gets to me. When I told that person to calm down and stop being snarky, I got reply from other users saying they wasn’t.
Might stick to Reddit for now. I know it not great but it in my experince isn’t as easily pissed off and is actually bareable to scroll for awhile. I hate talking bad about Lemmy as I really want to like it but I just hate the userbase so much that it feels pointless to even properly use it as much.
Lemmy really needs to focus on improving the default UI, and making it as easy as possible for users to sign in and start seeing posts etc.
Especially on mobile, it was a nightmare for me to figure out which app, which instance etc. most people would have given up by then.
People are used to having a very smooth process when using social media etc. and Lemmy is really lacking in that department.
My experience getting started here was a rollercoaster for sure. I think that one thing that would improve the experience immensely is if there were a way to have one profile no matter which instance you sign up on. I’m on my 3rd instance right now and the first 2 were both within my first 2 days of trying this place out.
It’s like if you want one permanent profile, you have to first research the politics of an instance, and its politics with other instances, and hang around long enough to check out the users and see if your first impression was true etc. etc. And just kiss your old profile and history good bye if the politics change and you need to move homes.
That would be great yes
I think a good start is to just join lemm.ee or even lemmy.world
And then figure out if you really want to switch or not.
Sorry to hear.
I saw your post yesterday, I knew it was going to get negative reactions.
Maybe you can try more positive communities like !casualconversation@lemm.ee ?
There is a selection of communities here: https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/20504960?scrollToComments=true
If that may help, someone told me I was an “energy vampire” today, so it seems like everyone will get a not so nice interaction every once in a while. I hope you’ll stick around, but it not, all the best!
I will say, lately lemmy has been in uncharacteristically confrontational. It’s been a rough year so far, hopefully things chill out
US elections didn’t help
Lemmy is full of echo chambers. People afraid to have a conversation with people with other opinions. A simple word will trigger them, its like you can all be wrong together.
Lemmy: What the fuck do you mean, “you use Windows”
I asked a vegan what the word “carnist” was and got banned, lol. You’re right, there’s a lot of angry folk on here…and it’s hilarious
Bad example removed
There are some communities which expect people to lurk and learn the terminology before asking questions. Asking what carnist is on a vegan community can be considered as sealioning.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealioning
To show an example of of what vegans face, !carnivore@lemmy.world got locked as it was a community which was willing to dunk on vegans, which is against LW terms of service.
https://lemmy.world/post/24429479?scrollToComments=true
(For people actually interested in carnivore diet, !carnivore@lemm.ee is a better community)
The fact that you find it hilarious shows you were not being there in good faith.
I’ve seen multiple posts on vegan communities about how they’ve been going onto some random carnivore communities for no other reason than to stir shit and get banned. So most of those arguments have lost all credibility to me personally; being angry and rude to people who ask honest questions makes you the asshole, full stop. You can never assume everyone knows all the exact things you do, and banning them from the community for not knowing them, while it is a choice you can make, is going to make your community look terrible.
people who ask honest questions
That’s the principle sealioning is based on. Trolls pretend to be asking “honest questions” and then start trolling.
There are toxic people in every community, I showed an example above of a carnivore diet community which got locked as it wasn’t complying with LW’s ToS. !vegan@lemmy.world is still open.
Am I now going to say “A carnivore community has been banned, those people are nuts” based on that anecdotal evidence?
Obviously I’m generalising here, but I feel like this is largely the outcome of putting a bunch of middle-aged white STEM bros on the same small social media network as a bunch of queer communists who trend a lot younger.
The latter group would be mostly content keeping to itself (albeit with the usual amount of infighting), but the former group sees it as its god-given duty to barge in and disrupt any and all “echo chambers” they happen into online. They have all the social awareness and political literacy of the stereotypical facebook boomer, they’re just more technically literate.
To be clear, a lot of folks here are perfectly amicable, but if the quality of the experience on Reddit hadn’t dropped so drastically in the last two and a half years that I found myself questioning my sanity I probably wouldn’t have come back here.
My advice is don’t hesitate to block someone for being a dick, and be ready to report anything you think is actionable by community moderators or site admins.
Be nice if most of Lemmy had mods and admins who removed hate speech
Yeah, I guess it would.
Speaking of which, I was in a discussion about that yesterday:
I specifically avoid .ml and .world because the collective behavior (i.e., hostility, downvote trolling, etc.) is so much like Reddit.
Beehaw, Hexbear and Blahaj have all disabled downvotes, but Blahaj is the only one that’s decent, which is why I’m here.
(I would link directly to these if I could, but am having issues with that.)
For what it’s worth, Discuit is also a generally friendly place.
Ive found myself actually reading a ton of threads from hexbear, and ive found them to be some of the most civil and welcoming lemmy users PROVIDED they dont think that youre arguing in bad faith. They can be quick to dismiss anyone who seems like a bad actor, and i think thats totally fair, because its rude as hell to go into someones safe space and start acting like you know better or being dismissive of their beliefs. Especially when you dont actually want a well reasoned answer, you just want to stir shit. Hexbear users are great, opinionated people. Lemmy.world users (and mods especially) seem to be terrible, opinionated people. Hexbear totally doesnt deserve the bad rap they get imo, and their trans community is awesome.
because its rude as hell to go into someones safe space and start acting like you know better or being dismissive of their beliefs. Especially when you dont actually want a well reasoned answer, you just want to stir shit.
You’re running on a lot of assumptions.
I made a comment that had nothing to do with any of that. It received quite a few upvotes (10+), then someone misread it and accused me of antisemitic dog whistling, which was not the case. In other words, they were stirring up shit and making a bad-faith argument.
So I clarified my position, then other users piled on, the mod(s) deleted my comments, and I left.
And the user who made that accusation had made what could be perceived as an anti-Italian remark in a comment a few days before. My paternal grandparents were Italian. Needless to say, I was a bit upset that this person didn’t follow the very strict standards that they held me to.
(By the way, Blahaj is also an LGBTQ+ safe space. The difference is, they’re not assholes.)
Feel free to check my post history here; stirring up shit is not my style.
In the meantime, I’ll leave you with some recommended reading, here and here.
My experience with hexbear was similar to my experiences with 8chan in that it was full of unreasonably hostile people with poor education and social skills.
Hey there! A lot of users on hexbear are from various countries, living in poverty, unhoused, and/or part of a marginalized community. It’s very cool of you to say a lot of us are unreasonably hostile and uneducated.
If I told you to go fuck yourself as a response would that be an unreasonably hostile response? How about I told ypu that your entire family should be murdered because you exist, would that be unreasonable? I would say yes to both and yet my very first two replies on hexbear were those.
They were uneducated because at the time it was a forum filled with “leftists” who seemingly understand leftism through memes, infographics and social media rather than the books you can find online for free. If they can find Lemmy they can find archive.org and other places with free books to provide real education on leftism. Not surprisingly most know fuckall about economics while thinking they do because that seems to be a common thing for younger leftists. This has nothing to do with wealth as how would I know what people are worth just by knowing where they live?
As you know literally nothing about me at all maybe don’t pass judgement because you don’t have any clue what you’re talking about.
Very cool and very normal response.
If I told you to go fuck yourself as a response would that be an unreasonably hostile response? How about I told ypu that your entire family should be murdered because you exist, would that be unreasonable?
Well that depends, are you normally told both of these things on a daily basis solely because of immutable characteristics of your being? Because 48% of hexbear users are, if we’re ONLY going off the amount of trans people on the site.
They were uneducated because at the time it was a forum filled with “leftists” who seemingly understand leftism through memes, and blah blah blah I’m a dirty fucking classist asshole who thinks nobody is nearly as smart as I am and can’t imagine anyone would come to the conclusion that hexbear users did without being young and naive that seems to be a common thing for younger leftists.
Sis… do I really have to point out how you’re being an asshole with this one? Nearly every person I talk to on hexbear is 20+ and has some kind of income source. The majority of us read actual theory, we have a weekly book club for group reading and discussion of theory. Your view of other people is so narrow that you seriously think people are swayed towards wanting genuine revolution by memes, when the reality is that most (if not all) of us have been personally affected by the horrors of capitalism and have been pushed to desperation that the only way we can see forward is dismantling the current system.
This has nothing to do with wealth as how would I know what people are worth just by knowing where they live?
Okay…? Idk what you were trying to say with this but I can assume you meant to say that you couldn’t tell that we have people that are impoverished or unhoused.
Girl, it doesn’t take much to find out we have a mutual aid community and some of our users openly speak about struggling with drugs and homelessness. We don’t put it on display, but it’s not exactly a secret. If you had bothered to look rather than make blanket assumptions about an entire community, maybe you’d have noticed, but you clearly bought into the “evul tankies gommunism red fash” bullshit that 196 and the other vaushites and redditors spout on lemmy.
As you know literally nothing about me at all maybe don’t pass judgement because you don’t have any clue what you’re talking about.
I didn’t pass judgment on you? You’re literally doing exactly what you’re talking about actually, about an entire community.
I would say yes to both and yet my very first two replies on hexbear were those.
Gee with a response like this it’s hard to wonder what you could have said to piss them off.
