German sales were down by a massive 76.3% last month, with Australia posting a similar 71.9% decline

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      11 days ago

      Yeah, no, that’s completely false.

      You know how long it takes to refuel my car? About 5 seconds. That’s about how long it takes to drag the connector over and plug it in before I head inside.

      I also don’t have to worry about being mugged inside the store, having things stolen from my vehicle, or even the vehicle itself stolen, or having my credit card skimmed and stolen.

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          I think for a commuter car ev is the way to go especially if your jobsite has free or subsidized charging, then an ICE car for camping and road trips

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          Take off the foil hat

          Sorry, are you really just going to deny the many crimes taking place at gas stations?

          Once your battery is empty you’re in for a long wait.

          Your battery should never be empty. With modern charging tech it’s usually ~15 mins. at a fast charger to go 10-80%. The car is usually ready before me.

          Plus the chances of your card being cloned with a chip and pin machine in a shop are so close to zero

          You’re out of your depth. This still happens all the time.

          EV’s are more of a statement

          LOL no.

        • ℍ𝕂-𝟞𝟝@sopuli.xyz
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          Most of the world doesn’t have drives needing more than a full EV battery, not even most of the US. EV sales are up, and in a lot of places, it’s shifting to be the norm.

          Buying ICE, especially a truck when you don’t need one is a statement, not buying an EV like everyone else.

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        Oh shoot then why do I always see people sitting in their cars in parking lots charging if it only takes 5 seconds

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          Believe it or not there are actually different types of charging. The type you’re referring to is rarely to never necessary for most people.

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        I also don’t have to worry about being mugged inside the store, having things stolen from my vehicle, or even the vehicle itself stolen, or having my credit card skimmed and stolen.

        Most of those things could happen regardless of what kind of car you have, or where your car is.

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          They don’t happen if you don’t go to the gas station. If my car is electric I don’t need to go to the gas station.

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            You don’t need to go to a gas station for most of those things to happen, either. Actually, a gas station is probably safer that your average store parking lot, so you should probably avoid those as well.

            Now that I think about it, any time my cars have been broken into, I have been home. Any time my card was skimmed, it wasn’t at a gas station.

            Your fear of gas stations seems unrealistic.

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      This is Tesla sales, not EV sales. It strikes me as indicative of people finally deciding that they aren’t willing to give money to a company whose public face is Musk.

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                  I was talking about hydrogen. It’s not a fuel. It is not abundant. It literally escapes the earth completely when released into the atmosphere. Stuff containing hydrogen is abundant, not the same thing, because the hydrogen has already given up its energy to get there. Hydrogen has to be manufactured, possibly through electrolysis (putting in more energy than burning the hydrogen back into water) or, as is much more common and cheaper… made from fossil fuels.

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              No, it really isn’t. It’s not abundant in accessible forms without using a shit ton of energy and rare metals.

              Storage will never be solved. Even if magically we could compress it to a reasonable volume and kept the tank small, it’s still a literal bomb inside of a car. A bomb that can explode twice, and much bigger than gas, diesel, or batteries.

              Hydrogen will never be a reality because we will just keep using gas and diesel, with emissions filters, making them very clean. Its conservative propaganda that’s been around my entire life that the next evil progressive is gonna ban ICE cars. So they weirdly started drinking the kool-aid about hydrogen.

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          “they are cars for morons” - person who cannot rely on themselves to plug in their car overnight