Are you fucking kidding me…

  • dirthawker0@lemmy.world
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    14 days ago

    “…anger is growing among Democrats about Green’s antics — which they believe have consumed headlines and distracted from Trump’s actions”

    I have not heard of any of Green’s antics because Trump’s antics are what’s consuming the headlines. Seriously, what a load of bullshit. I’m increasingly disgusted with Democrats’ lack of response.

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      14 days ago

      I haven’t seen a single Democrat (voter, not these ghouls) appear angry about Green. If they even know about it.

      • Eugene V. Debs' Ghost@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        If anything, I’ve seen more Democrats excited about him and saying they donated to him for it. I personally didn’t know Green before the event, and now I respect him for standing up for more people than he himself represents.

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    The 10 Democrats who voted with Republicans to censure Green were: Ami Bera of California, Ed Case of Hawaii, Jim Costa of California, Laura Gillen of New York, Jim Himes of Connecticut, Chrissy Houlahan of Pennsylvania, Marcy Kaptur of Ohio, Jared Moskowitz of Florida, Marie Gluesenkamp Perez of Washington and Tom Suozzi of New York.

    Democrats are absolutely fucking pathetic.

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          You’re right and you should say it. Progressives in America need to execute a takeover just like the Tea Party did on the right. Primary out every moderate Dem.

          You won’t win em all, but you’ll win enough to fundamentally change the direction of the party.

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            The biggest issue with that is that the Tea Party was an astroturf movement backed by Koch brothers. We already have enough big money in politics. And it would be more beneficial for everyone if the DNC simply dropped off the face of the earth and was replaced by a workers party.

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              Your don’t have to be the Tea Party in order to replicate their success.

              It might be better if you got some glorious new socialist workers party that appeared out of nowhere, but Santa doesn’t have any of those in his sack right now. Work with what you have.

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                What we have is 2 corporate owned parties that will do everything in their power to keep things the same. There is no reforming a corrupt system

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                  What you have is rapidly encroaching fascism. What you need is any solution that gets you out of that.

                  You’re not looking for ideal. You’re looking for workable. You’re going to have a lot more success pushing forward leftist candidates in a party that already has an established base of support than you are in trying to somehow build sufficient momentum for a viable third party in a country that has basically never had viable third parties.

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    15 days ago

    Democrats prefer their performative politics like wearing pink and holding up paddle boards. Not actually speaking up against the administration.

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    14 days ago

    No no no, this headline is a lie. The Democrats weren’t appealing to the left, so we leftists abstained, and now the Democrats know we mean business and they’re on our side.

    • Eugene V. Debs' Ghost@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      What does this actually mean?

      So even when those 10 Democrats are elected, it’s still not good enough? They won their elections, they represent their districts. And that’s somehow not good enough, you gotta be smug about how people wanted a better option?

      Like what is this take? “Because some leftists online talked about not wanting to support murder and courting Republicans, they are all to blame for Democrats voting with Republicans, even if they weren’t in their districts!”

      Newsflash, those Democrats have been in office longer than people were (rightfully) saying that Harris’ positions might cost her the election. So I don’t think the shadowy cabal of online leftists that both are to blame for the election as a large voting bloc but also must never be listened to as it’s only a handful of people who can be ignored that can be blamed for these Blue Dog Democrats.

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        I’m not convinced these 10 Democrats exist. We let Trump get elected, the Democrats would be mad to be courting the right after that. No, I think this article is Rupert Murdoch propaganda. The Democrats have all embraced communism ever since we didn’t vote for Kamala.

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      15 days ago

      Term limits are an antidemocratic solution to an antidemocratic problem - the problem isn’t incumbent people, which the voters select, it’s incumbent corporate interests, which the voters don’t select.

      Term limits for the legislature would create a revolving door of corporate shills. It takes a couple terms for a legislator to become skilled at the process and learn to make progress on their agenda - and to build a backbone to their donors.

      Ultimately, everything people think would be solved by term limits would actually be solved by eliminating money from politics. We need to greatly diminish the incumbency advantage, which is fueled by money in politics, to give us legislators who have to be accountable to the voters instead of donors.

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        13 days ago

        This is an interesting point. Would revoking citizens united solve this the same way?

        I still think term limits could help get new perspectives into politics.

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    15 days ago

    Why do we allow republicans into the democratic party? They do not strengthen the party, only the opposite.