I’m wondering what everyone else thinks is in our future as Canadians?
Do we think Trump is going to be stupid enough to try to invade Canada or redraw border lines?
Will the trade war continue for years or will Trump wuss out like last time?
We we continue to buy US products after they’ve now screwed us a second time?
I know I’m in the camp that whatever happens, I’m planning on completely excluding the USA from my life as much as possible.
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I think we’ll all get on just fine. This is like a toddler tantrum. Just need to cry it out in the corner a bit.
EU membership, please!!
I’ve started listening to the audiobook Canada alone, and so far it’s very prescient of what’s happening. Worth a read / listen.
I wish we could have Civil War 2: The GOP Are Traitors. Instead we get this schizophrenic bullshit.
UNAN interdependence
I think the Canadian national conversation has shifted. Sure, many business will need to or choose to still trade with the US, no matter what craziness starts or stops during or after the Trump administration. But we won’t take the US for granted as a stable trading partner anymore.
The trade war will come on and off over his term, whenever Trump wants to take the media off of a different problem he caused.
A real war is very unlikely, not impossible, but it depends on Trump and how competent Trump’s yes men are at enacting his fanciful ideas. I’d prepared for the possibility between 2016-2020, Trump would drop a nuke, and that didn’t happen at least. But just the same, once again as Canadians we should be prepared for the worst, and work with whatever we have as a nation. They can take a lot from us by force, but they will never take away our solidarity and our sovereignty without us voluntarily giving it up.
I would view it as an escalation if the govt starts warming us up to getting rid of US media, content and platforms. We shouldn’t be mass importing their media, news, worldview as much as we do normally but now they are invaders - digital boycott is a real thing.
I would like to see Canadian cable TV replace (at least some) American channels with international ones from the other English speaking countries.
And delete Faux news entirely.
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Yes, I know the number of homes with cable continues to shrink, but it’s still got a massive installed base.
This is SUCH an important point. The biggest and most painful band aid that needs to be pulled off is the cultural one. Our collective cultural identity has been steadily, gradually eroded by the loud, brash braying that the asses to the south continually emit day in day out. If it’s not clear to us by now, Americants don’t view anyone outside of their bubble as real people, or anything beyond a thing to be exploited. A means to their end.
The crucial realization though is that they absolutely depend on the their cultural exports to validate and legitimize their global behavior. A product and service boycott is good. A global cultural boycott that utterly repudiates their entire way of life is what’s required though.
I am SO down for this. And I firmly believe Canadians need to excise the American invader cultural hegemony from ourselves. The boycott has to extend to digital services and cultural services. I was only signalling that if govt starts outright banning US media, while I personally would be fine with it, it’s likely a very bad sign of things to come (ie, an actual military invasion incoming).
Getting off Facebook is one of the most important things we can do since it’s the largest spreader of misinformation.
Been off that for years.
Russia used weaponized its culture against its neighbors for generations… To the point here every country has a small but strong and vocal regime bootlicker culture.
Speaking American is high risk behavior
Sounds like some annoying reactionary factions in Canada as well
Canada needs to dedicate its 3.6% of our gdp on the military while we build more town infrastructure further northward to give ourselves more land to retreat to.
Best case scenario Ukraine gets all that surplus equipment and we have more people spread out across the country.
We don’t need to go north. There’s plenty of space in, say, western Ontario that’s going unused.
in a way, Trump is actually succeeding in getting NATO member countries to reach the 2% GDP commitment for military spending… by scaring countries into arming themselves against the United States.
it’s like convincing your friend to install an alarm system by threatening to rob them at gunpoint.
Yes. Canada and Groenland WILL be invaded. That will trigger a major civil war on US. Canada and Groenland people will be treated like second class citizens and live in poverty. All ressources will be steal by US. In the end, after decades of insurrection, US will be torn apart and broken economically and militarily. That will be the greatest opportunity for China and Russia to take over the west. Other question ?
As an American living in Seattle area. Please invade Washington, so we can succeed it to you and join your fight. The new way of doing things here is to lie things into existence so we have a good shot at a non violent succession. All we have to say is Vancouver North and South are actually part of the same territory and use a sharpie to circle them on a map. Worth a shot at least. Assuming you would have us that is, please take us!
I’d be for that; I have family living between Metro Vancouver and Vancouver South (North Vancouver is a separate city and South Vancouver is a suburb of Vancouver) on both sides of the current border.
Although realistically, we need to replace British Columbia with Cascadia and absorb the entire Columbia River basin, so there are no future fights over water rights or management.
Red River valley has some similar issues further east; not sure which way the border should move there; most Canadians along that border already shop in the US.
I’m of the mind that the Orange Imbecile intends to start a war, any war, to justify him staying on as president beyond his second term. If a civil war doesn’t happen within 3 months of the start of the next presidential election cycle I fully expect him to attempt to invade us. Whether his military allows it or not is anyone’s guess but AFAIK he has already begun emptying the top brass of any dissenters so…
I’m from the US and fled to Canada during the second Bush Jr. administration. The funny thing is I’d kill to have that lovable idiot back in office. It’s amazing how you never really appreciate what you’ve got until you have something MUCH worse.
I have family in the military down there. Wouldn’t it be funny if they had to come up here to kill me and my family and seize my land? Boy wouldn’t my face be red! That would just be hilarious!
I mean, I’m sure i don’t need to tell you, a ton of the groundwork for this was laid by that “lovable idiot” and his handlers. Bush walked so trump could goose-step
“within 3 months of the next presidential election cycle” if the last two have been any indication, we’re already 2 months in.
Let’s see if the mid-term election happens and/or how it goes.
Yeah I do not think their mid-terms are happening, we are not years away from the next US civil war.
When everything started on Jan 20 and you could see what was happening in the US. Their regime dismantling the government, Musk, DOGE, and tariffs, and it was hard to believe what was happening. Then, the continued threats to Canada, it was all pretty scary.
Now, 50 something days in, I’m starting to realize they have no plan and no execution, or even no sense to what they’re doing. So sure it still feels really unstable and uneasy but less threatening.
Hopefully, the world will economically destroy Musk just on the principal of his actions. Show billionaires they are not immune.
I do think it’s possible there eventually will be a military action on Canada. I think the most plausible thing I’ve heard is that Canada would be easy to invade but nearly impossible to hold. That would be a messy situation for both sides. Nobody will be a winner, so it will come down to desire to go down that road. From what I’ve been hearing, there is only a very low percentage of people on either side of the border who have support of this action.
In the meantime, I would be happy to see Canada disconnect from America, find new trade partners, and improve our infrastructure. Seems to be what the plans are, so I think we are dealing best we can in the situation we are in.
True north strong and free.
Speaking of improving infrastructure, cbc is building out local news and hiring (permanent contracts in a unionized gig btw, for any fantastic yet out-of-work journalists scrolling by).
I would love to see much closer relations between Canada and the EU, perhaps even a mutual defense agreement.
Monday comes next.
There are still several hours left of Sunday, someone could shoot someone and the war could start today! Just saying.
That’s true. I’m being optimistic.
