Found this notification this morning on my pixel 6.
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Pot Calling Kettle… etc… 🤣
I know, right, the fucking balls of Google to fucking say this
Because they are legally obligated to mention it?
Are they? What law?
Probably GDPR if I had to guess. Seems like anything decent these companies do can be directly traced back to GDPR.
Edit: guys, “probably” means that I’m unsure.
No GDPR does not require google to display app permissions like that…
Your just making things up.
Show me where I made something up, boss. Or do you not know what “probably” means?
Do you? Because made up satistics are still made up.
This is how misinformation starts.
If your not sure, google it before commenting. For the sanity of the internet.
Do you want the short or the long version?
…except they don’t for their own browser.
This is not at all a pot kettle situation, there is no reason to warn about Firefox.
There is: default search results on FF have always legally been sold to Google, the public didn’t know since there were no terms of service or mention by FF whenever they uploaded the android version on the playstore that their users data would be collected and some be sold. Position is one of the data that may be sold as it could be used by Google to dermine which localised version of the search result is the best one to serve
And it’s not going to be Google in the future: it could be Bing, startpage, ecosia, qwant etc… As long as someone pays, then the results are sold and there needs to be a warning to users.
use ironfox or fennec
Are you aware of Firefox’s changes to their privacy policy that has been in the news the past 2 weeks? If not you can easily find articles and youtuve videos on it.
That’s why I’m posting this 🤷♂️
I didn’t mean it to come across as insulting or anything. I meant it all genuinely to be helpful
You should just post the articles and videos.
They have been posted.
Edit:
Don’t call me unless I gave you my number
Why would anyone here call you, and how would they even have your number in the first place?
Or I was busy and gave a quick and still helpful response
Isn’t that just because Firefox got access to location data because some site asked for it?
Yep. Like a map website…
commenting cus I also have the same question
Vivaldi is where it’s at
Nope. That’s still chromium based and further serves Google’s monopoly on the web platform.
Strips out all the tracking bullshit
That said I’m open to better alternatives. I’m working hard to protect myself.
Fennec. Ironfox. Mullvad. Tor.
I’m personally running on Librewolf, it strips out the Mozilla BS and gives you fairly strict default privacy settings. It’s sad that the free and open web is skating on thin ice.
No, it’s really not. Fuck chromium of all flavors.
It’s closed source and chrome(ium)(?) based. I’m not entirely convinced by Vivaldi.
Get ironfox?
fennec vs ironfox opinions?
I would love to see a real comparison.
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I’ve not heard of ironfox before this thread! Could you possibly link it? Doesn’t seem like it’s on FDroid or IzzyOnDroid
its for android, mobile.
IronFox is on F-Droid. That where I got it from at least
In addition to what others have said, it can be downloaded from the Accrescent app store:
Never heard of that, what’s the benefit over F-Droid?
GrapheneOS posted this on Mastodon about a month & a half back:
The main difference is of philosophy of trust. With F-droid you trust F-droid to build the binary from the developers’ source code. With Accrescent, you trust the developers to build the binary from the source code.
With F-droid you trust F-droid to build the binary from the developers’ source code
Not when using a self-hosted F-Droid Repo - which is the case for Ironfox.
Yeah that’s like any 3rd party repository
So Accrescent is more like the classic play store or Obtainium?
In the play store you’re trusting Google and the developer.
I’m not sure how obtainium works. But if you download binaries from GitHub, you’re trusting the developer to accurately build their source code into the binary without adding anything. You’re also trusting GitHub implicitly – way back when, source forge was sometimes adding malware to downloads iirc.
F-droid is kind of cool in that they are saying, “we will ensure for you that the code you execute is the same as the open source code you can read”. But this added level of insurance comes with downsides – like sometimes it’s harder for the developer to make their code build properly, or maybe updates take longer.
And here I’m trusting Accrescent to actually deliver me an executable that has not been tampered with
You have to add IronFox’s repo in F-Droid before you can install it from there. This is their Github link.
Google: “Forcing us to divest Chrome could have impacts on our ability to support Mozilla and their high executive salaries as we own the space with Chrome.”
Also Google:
Looks like its enshittification continues unabated :/
Wait a second. You’re expecting Google to not FUD? Ha ha ha oh wow. I mean I didn’t actually expect them to do so, but yeah.
Wth is fud?
Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt. It’s more commonly used in crypto communities.
[stern stare]
Forgotten the history, have we? I was referring to Microsoft’s tactics in the early 2000s.
Crypto bros have watered down the term and made it a laughing matter. They ruin everything they touch. Goddamn it.
Huh. I wasn’t even aware of it having that much of a history to begin with.
Fucking Ultra Demon
Elmer
Expected, no. Surprised, also no.
i mean it’s just because you can grant websites location data and toggle telemetry.
I had already downloaded and installed Ironfox (FF Android fork) on my phone and have been using it for a week or so. It works identically to FF for android. Ublock Origin is working in Ironfox too.
Pretty easy to disable the location app permission or set it to ask every time. Firefox hasn’t asked me to enable it since turning it off.
Yeah I’m pretty sure Firefox won’t ask for or use your location, unless a website wants it for some reason (which is almost never a good one).
and even then, for me at least, the dialog that pops up is broken and lot of times the “Allow” button literally does nothing
Didn’t they also elude to collecting telemetry recently? I know it’s up for some debate but, if true, I’m not sure that’s a thing we can turn off.
does anyone actually have a good privacy in mind alternative with sources to back it up?
FWIW I’m not seeing this on the Play Store for Firefox 136.0.1 on my Pixel 8a, and I’m not seeing any warnings on Beta or Nightly either:
I don’t see it from installs direct via Obtainium, either.
How is Mullvad Browser? I know it’s based on Firefox but wouldn’t imagine they would tolerate this.
Mullvad is really for anonymous sessions. It’s meant to blend in with every other Mullvad instance on the Net so it helps make users harder to identify. It’s not geared towards daily use.
On desktop, I switched to Librewolf and installed the Dark Reader add-on.
I will continue using Firefox on Android because I have absolutely no illusions about my privacy on this fucking thing.
GrapheneOS is pretty good, as a more private alternative to Android, though the downside is that it’s only available for Pixel phones. I bought a used one on ebay.
I wonder if Square would still work, for example? I haven’t flashed open source ROMs on my phone since like 2012.
Honestly though, I just consider the phone a lost cause when it comes to privacy & use it accordingly. Uncle Googs is always watching, even when the damn thing is turned off.
the thing about degoogled OS is lack of SafetyNet support and it is important for banking apps.
FWIW, banking apps work fine on GrapheneOS.
if you mean this list that is quite concerning because each individual have difference banking preferences and it looks like it depends on the bank to support GrapheneOS directly But, I don’t think they bother because low market share (https://grapheneos.org/usage#banking-apps)
The bank doesn’t need to manually support GrapheneOS, the app just needs to behave appropriately - which, as you can see from that list, the overwhelming majority of them do.
If my bank stops supporting it, then I will move banks. But I doubt it will ever really become an issue.
Thx, that’s exactly my concern as I remember it being an issue when I was flashing ROMs in the past.
Fine. I preferred Fennec over the two for quality of life and ease of use balanced with privacy.
