• chuckleslord@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    1 month ago

    The thing they didn’t teach is what leads to nazism and how to defeat it. Makes you wonder if that was on purpose…

    • snoons@lemmy.caEnglish
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      1 month ago

      I think it’s because what defeated them was violence and “violence is bad”. Because the problem of nazism definitely could’ve been solved diplomatically… >.>

      • frank@sopuli.xyzEnglish
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        1 month ago

        100%.

        And on a related note, all of the right wing people who are proud of the US’ wartime accomplishments (especially WWII) seem to forget why the US was so good at it. Science and Engineering are the main reasons (okay, scale and being far from a home front [no disrespect Pearl Harbor] top) that the US was so impactful. It’s wild that a lot of the people who are particularly proud of developing a devastating bomb are the same people who hate science funding and science itself.

        • untorquer@quokk.auEnglish
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          1 month ago

          Those and an independent manufacturing / logistics capability far in excess of what the was torn economies were dwindled down to, a recent mass nationalization of infrastructure, social reform creating a dedicated and healthy populace while supporting research funding, massive independent agricultural base, independent energy supply, a military with experience in environments analogous to all fronts…

          Basically everything that no longer exists in the US.

          Oh and the wealthy paid taxes commensurate with the general pop…

          • frank@sopuli.xyzEnglish
            1·
            1 month ago

            Yup, absolutely. If a country wanted to “win” in that way again it would basically be by doing the opposite of what the GOP does these days.

            • wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyzEnglish
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              1 month ago

              You mean to say firing all your experienced generals and replacing them with sycophants under the direction of a department secretary hired straight from faux news isn’t the kind of decision a successful military superpower would make?!?!?

        • OpenStars@discuss.onlineEnglish
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          1 month ago

          Please drill this into your head right now: the facts do not matter.

          It’s fine to appreciate the irony, but the true prime movers are operating on a whole different level underneath what is being said out loud.

          I upvoted your comment, but if you ask yourself why they hate science funding, you’ll find the answer(s) very quickly.

          • frank@sopuli.xyzEnglish
            1·
            1 month ago

            Yeah, I was much more appreciating the irony here than actually wondering. I know I can’t logic them out of a situation they didn’t logic themselves into.

      • wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyzEnglish
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        1 month ago

        Yeah, even as a kid I could see through this logic. A typical workflow for me in school looked something like this: I get bullied → I stand up for myself → the bully gets violent → I defend myself → we both go to the principal’s office and wind up suspended for the same length of time because “violence is bad.”

        Meanwhile in class I was learning about how our heroic grandfathers stood up to the ultimate bullies and defeated them with… you guessed it, violence.

        It made no sense to me then and it makes no sense to me now, because it’s illogical. Complete cognitive divorce between “theory” and “practice,” or “abstract book knowledge” and “real-world actions/decisions/experience.”

        The entire US school system is designed around teaching you one thing while encouraging enforcing you to behave otherwise, honestly…

    • Burn_The_Right@lemmy.todayEnglish
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      1 month ago

      Conservatives can’t let people know that nazism is just a flavor of conservatism. They can’t have people openly pointing out how every genocide ever commited in human history was caused by conservatives.

      Conservatives would rather burn everything to the ground than admit they are all racist, dog-fucking, traitor, pedophile bigots. It’s almost like they can feel shame. They can’t, but it almost seems like it.

  • BigBoyShuanzee@aussie.zoneEnglish
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    1 month ago

    I got banned from Reddit for saying that the only thing Nazis are good for is target practice.

    I am an almost 40 year old white man… My Grandparents fought the Nazis.

    The only good Nazi is a dead Nazi

    I got permanently banned from Reddit for saying that Child predators should be killed.

    Funny that.

    • Burn_The_Right@lemmy.todayEnglish
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      1 month ago

      I have been banned from several comms on lemmy for saying very similar things. Most comms seem OK with it, but there are definitely a few conservative mods on lemmy that will protect their own.

      • not_IO@lemmy.blahaj.zoneOPEnglish
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        1 month ago

        pls stop using "conservative " as synonymous to fascist, thats what they want, there is nothing conservative about nazism

  • mastertigurius@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    1 month ago

    Just non-negotiable moral compasses in general. “Yeah, he’s obviously an obnoxious racist, chauvinist, paedophile, warmongering, corrupt fascist pig, but have you seen the Dow lately?”