Is there really someone that considers’ cell communication secure?
Everything you do on a phone is recorded. It’s literally device stamped by towers.
Country doesn’t matter for phones.
Burners matter cause there is nothing associated with them, every country monitors cell phones. It’s not a burner if you pay with a bank account or credit card.
The closest you can get is buy the Phone and cards when you need them with cash. AND that still locates you in store once every three months.
It’s not the traceability of the phone. It’s the contents of the phone.
The contents of our phones is deeply personal and some courts have ruled that makes them part of the fourth amendment protections, but it’s not made it to the Supreme Court (afaik, ianal) and border patrol doesn’t care as this case makes evident.
The benefit of a burner phone is that you don’t knock out your primary phone in order to remove “incriminating” evidence like that time your friend texted you that Donald Trump is an orange bellend.
Not really, too many people buy burners with credit cards and bank account, then tie them to known emails. Knowing that everything you do on your phone is recorded should be common knowledge, and keeping the payment and accounts anonymous as a necessity should also be common knowledge.
Unfortunately people pay for them with company or personal cards or bank accounts all the time. And even when they pay for them with cash they don’t use throwaway emails.
PS this is from someone who has used burners for 15+ years.
In this scenario, you’re not trying to hide the fact that the burner belongs to you. You are pretending that it’s your main device and everything on there is all the data you have. And therefore, concealing the fact that all your anti-government data is on a separate device in your home country.
They think the burner if your main device, and that’s the point.
Is there really someone that considers’ cell communication secure?
Everything you do on a phone is recorded. It’s literally device stamped by towers.
Country doesn’t matter for phones.
Burners matter cause there is nothing associated with them, every country monitors cell phones. It’s not a burner if you pay with a bank account or credit card.
The closest you can get is buy the Phone and cards when you need them with cash. AND that still locates you in store once every three months.
Its possible to own a phone and never use a SIM. This is the recommend option. Never connect to a cell tower. Just use WiFi.
It’s not the traceability of the phone. It’s the contents of the phone.
The contents of our phones is deeply personal and some courts have ruled that makes them part of the fourth amendment protections, but it’s not made it to the Supreme Court (afaik, ianal) and border patrol doesn’t care as this case makes evident.
The benefit of a burner phone is that you don’t knock out your primary phone in order to remove “incriminating” evidence like that time your friend texted you that Donald Trump is an orange bellend.
You seem to have missed the point.
Not really, too many people buy burners with credit cards and bank account, then tie them to known emails. Knowing that everything you do on your phone is recorded should be common knowledge, and keeping the payment and accounts anonymous as a necessity should also be common knowledge.
Unfortunately people pay for them with company or personal cards or bank accounts all the time. And even when they pay for them with cash they don’t use throwaway emails.
PS this is from someone who has used burners for 15+ years.
I think the point was not having a phone with you when you go through security and not about privacy when you are on the other side
100% agreement. Taking a phone through customs is a surefire method of burning a burner because it gets tied to a passport.
Its more about compartmentization.
In this scenario, you’re not trying to hide the fact that the burner belongs to you. You are pretending that it’s your main device and everything on there is all the data you have. And therefore, concealing the fact that all your anti-government data is on a separate device in your home country.
They think the burner if your main device, and that’s the point.