• SuluBeddu@feddit.it
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    Many that fight for civic rights, also fight the class war, protesting for both

    Civil rights are actually a good platform to spread social awareness

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    They’ve been doing it since reconstruction. I read the opinion once that labor never got true power in America because they kept excluding blacks for a long time. I think about that a lot. Hating a black guy was more important to many labor movements than class solidarity.

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      This is why labor unions really started to fail in the 60s and 70s. The union guys valued race far more than class and the powers of unions diminished.

      They have been doing it well before reconstruction. Once upon a time there wasn’t that much racism in the US, but after Bacon’s rebellion the elites realized that whites and blacks were working together and have since then been pitting them against one another.

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        They also purged all the communists as a show of good faith to the government (which, uh, didn’t work). Those communists were likely more prone to class solidarity as an ideological commitment and also more willing to fight with radical actions like strikes, but instead we were left with opportunistic leadership that just wanted to secure the bag for themselves, and at best the other members of the union, but had no interest in any building any kind of broad coalition or promoting equality on a societal level - that would make them sound like a Red.

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    this meme is dumb and short-sighted and the commenters are right.

    it isnt a culture war conservatives are inciting, it is a war on civil rights.

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      In much of the public’s eye, it is a culture war. That’s what determined their vote and support.

      The whole point of eroding civil rights is to help billionaires.

      Always has been.

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        The public gets things wrong, that’s why it’s important to set the record straight rather than serve up pablum.

        “The whole point of eroding civil rights is to help billionaires…”

        claiming an absolute regarding complex and differentiated issues is how you know something is pablum.

        The long-term conservative judicial and legislative campaign the meme incorrectly refers to has a lot to do with race and religion, for example.

        “Always has been”.

        this is just a line from a short-sighted meme that is often incorrectly used, including here by you. it’s a fun phrase that means nothing, it’s confetti stuck in your sock.

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    It’s not a culture war if they make policy based on it. Can’t really be shouting at the migrants being detained, put in camps and deported or the women being denied abortions or the trans people being arrested for having to pee and shout at them from the fence that the culture war is a distraction and if they only looked at it from a class perspective everything would be fine.

    I mean, you can, but after a while it starts to suspiciously just seem like you actually agree with the fascists and the anarchocapitalists on the issues, or at least that you’re just as willing to use attackig marginalized scapegoats for your own political gain.

    • Nat (she/they)@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      They’re enforcing their version of culture, a very white conservative one. “Culture war” doesn’t mean completely unserious, the consequences are very real.

      It is a distraction from the root cause, they have people voting against their own self interest to make minorities suffer rather than demand better working and living conditions. It’s redirected anger wielded for their gains.

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    It’s hypocritical republicans who LOUDLY incite and stoke any of the culture wars you refer to. Anyone with half a brain can see that since at least two decades ago.

    Yet another reason in a very long list as to why both parties are NOT the same. But that ship has sailed, I have lost all faith in the american electorate. Stubbornly ignorant, utterly misguided voters allowed the noisy felons back in, and they will NOT give up power on good faith. All while global warming continues to ramp up. It’s too fucking late.

    • OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml
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      I really don’t understand this comment (maybe I need to go to sleep), but I don’t see OP referring to any culture war, and I can’t say Republican’s are the only ones inciting culture wars (they might be inciting the ones I disagree with, but it is a culture war to push for equal rights)

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        Republicans srarted the abortion bogeyman as a way to get religious people to vote for them. Before that, nobody really gave much thought to it.

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    Check out the most recent Red flag radio podcast episode with April, a tran activist for Rainbow Rights. They discuss how social justice is connected to economic justice, how it’s all tied up in the class earlier against capitalism.