• PugJesus@lemmy.worldMEnglish
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    3 days ago

    I noticed it was the anniversary of the Iraq War (march 20) So i decided to post this in remembrance of all dead. I’m not sure to mark as NSFW or not, or if this post belongs. I will understand removal

    No need for a NSFW tag, and it’s both important and historical, so it definitely belongs.

    • fxomt@lemmy.dbzer0.comOPEnglish
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      3 days ago

      Yeah, thanks. I had more brutal pictures in mind, to represent the unjustifiable brutality that happened in Iraq, but that would be fucked up.

      I have more, but here’s some:

      Images

      • PugJesus@lemmy.worldMEnglish
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        3 days ago

        Yeah, thanks. I had more brutal pictures in mind, to represent the unjustifiable brutality that happened in Iraq, but that would be fucked up.

        Even brutal pics are welcome, as long as anything with death, gore, or the like is marked NSFW.

        History is often not pretty, especially when highlighting terrible crimes.

    • fxomt@lemmy.dbzer0.comOPEnglish
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      3 days ago

      Its so fucking horrible how Iraq got destroyed BECAUSE OF A LIE and the politicians and war criminals involved got off Scot free.

      They’ve still yet to see a penny from the US as reparations. And of course, there is no international support. Don’t forget the UK, Australia and Poland too (countless others on the war on terror in general, too)

      Al ghuraib, Haditha massacre, the countless other killings of civilians… Its senseless and brutal. But to the west, Arabs aren’t human enough for empathy I guess. (Unless they have oil, like the sauds)

      I’ll check blowback later,.thank you for the link.

      • PugJesus@lemmy.worldMEnglish
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        3 days ago

        I’ll check blowback later,.thank you for the link.

        Blowback is done by campist cretins, fair warning.

            • Keeponstalin@lemmy.worldEnglish
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              3 days ago

              Oh so you recognize they actually know what they’re talking about. What camp are they “campist cretins” to then? It’s laughable you think tweets are evidence and not like, their articles since they are both critically acclaimed journalists. The tweets don’t back up your claim either.

              We’re in a thread about the casualties of the Iraq War and you’re trying to discredit the two journalists that have created the most accurate and complete telling about the Iraq War that actually recognizes the humanity of the Iraqi civilians bombed, tortured, and starved to death in some of the most inhumane ways imaginable by the US. Like, wtf.

              • PugJesus@lemmy.worldMEnglish
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                3 days ago

                Oh so you recognize they actually know what they’re talking about.

                That’s a pretty bizarre extrapolation from me recognizing that they’re campist cretins.

                What camp are they “campist cretins” to then?

                Second-campist. Do you not know what ‘campist’ means?

                It’s laughable you think tweets are evidence

                Yes. How hilarious it is that I think their own words are evidence of their positions. Ha ha.

                and not like, their articles since they are both critically acclaimed journalists.

                So is Glenn fucking Greenwald, that doesn’t make him not a cretin.

                The tweets don’t back up your claim either.

                Oh, right, apologism for atrocities is only bad when it’s US atrocities.

                We’re in a thread about the casualties of the Iraq War and you’re trying to discredit the two journalists that have created the most accurate and complete telling about the Iraq War that actually recognizes the humanity of the Iraqi civilians bombed, tortured, and starved to death in some of the most inhumane ways imaginable by the US. Like, wtf.

                Have they considered not discrediting themselves by being genocide apologists for non-US atrocities, or is that too much ask?

                • Keeponstalin@lemmy.worldEnglish
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                  3 days ago

                  They are not genocide apologists nor “second-campists”, you’re absolutely delusional. They have never supported Russian Imperialism, it’s pretty obvious to anyone who actually listens to Blowback. What exactly do you think there saying is apologia? You don’t show what Noah Kulwin is responding to, nor are his responses incorrect. Nor is Brendan James wrong about the American Method of the US State Department deflecting criticism about foreign policy.

  • alvvayson@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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    3 days ago

    Thanks for posting.

    That war cost a million Iraqi lives (calculated by excess deaths). And not to forget all the others killed by the sanctions in the 90s and the Iran-Iraq war in the 80s, where the USA actually allied with Saddam and egged him on to start it.

    For Iraq, the USA truly was the evil empire.

    • fxomt@lemmy.dbzer0.comOPEnglish
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      3 days ago

      And that was just one war in the wider war on terror. There were a lot of other countries (UK,Germany,Italy,Canada,France,Netherlands etc etc) but the US was the worst of them all.

      4.5+ million dead. 38 million displaced.

      PS: After the first gulf war, Iraq had to pay $52.4b+ dollars in reparations, since it was pressed by the UN security council. Guess how much the US paid in reparations for the invasion? Nothing. The UN didn’t bother.

      Of course people are silent, it would take too much of a toll on their economy, therefore their convenience.

      • alvvayson@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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        3 days ago

        The US still holds about $100B in oil money it stole from Iraq.

        But it actually stole way more, perhaps more than a trillion, which Iraq had to pay to private US contractors. The American taxpayers and soldiers got fleeced in that war, too.