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    Its so fucking horrible how Iraq got destroyed BECAUSE OF A LIE and the politicians and war criminals involved got off Scot free.

    They’ve still yet to see a penny from the US as reparations. And of course, there is no international support. Don’t forget the UK, Australia and Poland too (countless others on the war on terror in general, too)

    Al ghuraib, Haditha massacre, the countless other killings of civilians… Its senseless and brutal. But to the west, Arabs aren’t human enough for empathy I guess. (Unless they have oil, like the sauds)

    I’ll check blowback later,.thank you for the link.

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      I’ll check blowback later,.thank you for the link.

      Blowback is done by campist cretins, fair warning.

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            Oh so you recognize they actually know what they’re talking about. What camp are they “campist cretins” to then? It’s laughable you think tweets are evidence and not like, their articles since they are both critically acclaimed journalists. The tweets don’t back up your claim either.

            We’re in a thread about the casualties of the Iraq War and you’re trying to discredit the two journalists that have created the most accurate and complete telling about the Iraq War that actually recognizes the humanity of the Iraqi civilians bombed, tortured, and starved to death in some of the most inhumane ways imaginable by the US. Like, wtf.

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              Oh so you recognize they actually know what they’re talking about.

              That’s a pretty bizarre extrapolation from me recognizing that they’re campist cretins.

              What camp are they “campist cretins” to then?

              Second-campist. Do you not know what ‘campist’ means?

              It’s laughable you think tweets are evidence

              Yes. How hilarious it is that I think their own words are evidence of their positions. Ha ha.

              and not like, their articles since they are both critically acclaimed journalists.

              So is Glenn fucking Greenwald, that doesn’t make him not a cretin.

              The tweets don’t back up your claim either.

              Oh, right, apologism for atrocities is only bad when it’s US atrocities.

              We’re in a thread about the casualties of the Iraq War and you’re trying to discredit the two journalists that have created the most accurate and complete telling about the Iraq War that actually recognizes the humanity of the Iraqi civilians bombed, tortured, and starved to death in some of the most inhumane ways imaginable by the US. Like, wtf.

              Have they considered not discrediting themselves by being genocide apologists for non-US atrocities, or is that too much ask?

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                They are not genocide apologists nor “second-campists”, you’re absolutely delusional. They have never supported Russian Imperialism, it’s pretty obvious to anyone who actually listens to Blowback. What exactly do you think there saying is apologia? You don’t show what Noah Kulwin is responding to, nor are his responses incorrect. Nor is Brendan James wrong about the American Method of the US State Department deflecting criticism about foreign policy.

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                  What exactly do you think there saying is apologia? You don’t show what Noah Kulwin is responding to, nor are his responses incorrect.

                  Ah yes, when performative leftists sudden become “fiscal conservatives” once the issue of resisting genocide comes up.

                  Well, the issue of resisting Russian or Chinese genocide, at least.

                  THEN the dollar value of lives becomes extremely important to campist cretins, for some reason.

                  Nor is Brendan James wrong about the American Method of the US State Department deflecting criticism about foreign policy.

                  “The US created/fueled/escalated the Ukrainian War!”

                  Fucking bootlicker.

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                    Ah yes, when performative leftists sudden become “fiscal conservatives” once the issue of resisting genocide comes up.

                    Again, you just made this up without evidence. This is untrue. Noah Kulwin explicitly stated Ukraine has every right to resist Putin’s illegal war. Supplying arms for Ukraine to defend itself has never been the issue.

                    “The US created/fueled/escalated the Ukrainian War!”

                    Again, that’s not what he said. He’s talking about the method the US uses for all of its foreign policy. When it comes to Ukraine, the US has fueled the conflict for its own ends. That’s a fact. Unless you somehow think the US happens to be entirely altruistic when it comes to Ukraine for some reason.

                    None of this shows what you think it shows. If they were really “campist cretins” then they should be completely glazing Russia when it comes the the Afghanistan War right? So why don’t they do that, they have an entire season on it yet they criticize all imperialist forces involved. Weird, it’s almost like there just anti-imperialist regardless of who’s doing it or in what form.