Summary
Bernie Sanders and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez condemned Donald Trump and Elon Musk at a packed Arizona rally, accusing them of harming working-class Americans and promoting oligarchy.
Sanders denounced corporate CEOs as “major criminals” exploiting workers, while Ocasio-Cortez called for stronger Democratic leadership.
Rallygoers urged Ocasio-Cortez to challenge Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer after he supported a Republican funding bill.
The rally, part of Sanders’ “Stop Oligarchy” tour, follows criticism of the Democratic Party’s weak response to Trump’s agenda and features further events in Colorado and Arizona.
From here the outside ot really feels that you need to start another party now. Like nice rally and all of that but the dnc has been screwing you over every fuckin time.
Buddy we don’t even have elections anymore. The voting system is no longer a relevant target.
The real solution is to change the party in the primaries.
As flawed as the DNC is, starting a new party will split the non-Republican vote and guarantee the GOP sweeps.
“Change the system!” Yeah - the last Constitutional ammendment that was ratified was in 1992 and had been introduced in the Washington administration.
I’ve heard this argument for 30+ years. How long do I wait for it to be true?
Can’t you change how the delegate election works at least at a state level?
Yes. The best thing we can actually hope for at thCompact. regarding national elections is the national popular vote Interstate compact.
Oh ok we’ll get right on that
Edit: it just doesn’t really help that these discussions always devolve into comments about “we have to get rid of FPTP” and all that. Yeah, no shit. There’s zero chance of that happening in this country at this time. Not without a complete breakdown of the country.
Well… You are onto that it seems… So get the hopium?
Well, OK then.
Shit is going to absolutely fucking suck for everyone then. Not just here. But sure, let’s go.
Starting a new party just guarantees Republicans win in landslides.
We need to do to the Democrats, what maga did to Republicans. Primary the old fuckers with young progressive candidates.
Just like how the Tea Party completely destroyed Republicans OH WAIT that’s not what happened at all. Republicans moved to the right to stay relevant and here we are.
A new popular party will force Democrats to either move to the left or become irrelevant. It’s exactly what we need.
That is because both GOP and DEM are corporatist parties. They will not cater to working class people because those people aren’t the ones throwing the most money at them. Left wing populism is nothing more than a tankie wet dream since citizens united.
First past the post ensures that any party that tries to splinter off dooms both themselves and the party from which they splintered.
What needs to happen is the democrats need to get tea partied.
At this point there’s no risk since the Democrats can’t win anyway. Might as well deal with a couple split elections while the transition happens because Republicans win even if you don’t
Don’t splinter then. Amputate.
Different word, same effect
Splinter implies a small breakaway group.
Amputate implies removing a part of the body that is harmful.
Who is really in power in the Democrats and how did they get there?
But how else will they keep sheepdogging everyone to vote for the billionaires?