• errer@lemmy.world
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    8 days ago

    I just don’t feel comfortable bringing a gun into my house. I don’t think I stand a chance against 10 automatic-wielding ICE agents.

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        7 days ago

        Yeah that’s the thing: a gun is far more likely to be used on a family member or yourself than a legit intruder.

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      8 days ago

      When the law break in How you gonna go? Shot down on the pavement Or waiting in death row

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      8 days ago

      Then you can learn to fly drones. You might stand a chance against a combat helicopter with a good drone. :) And if things don’t hit the fan, you just have a nice and peaceful hobby. :)

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      I will take my chance of stand off and quick death over being in prison in another state with no future.

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      8 days ago

      that will just give them an excuse to murder you immediately, and then the right to murder anyone immediately.

      although I’m not sure what else can be done, without saying anything illegal that might get me in an FBI watchlist and give me expedited tickets to a free vacation in el Salvador

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        8 days ago

        I’m just incredulous that anyone here believes they have a chance against a militarized police and immigration force. Feels very much like when the right pretended they could defend themselves against the government “taking their guns.” 99% of civilians, gun owners or not, have no chance.

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          The point isn’t to take out all of ICE. The point is that if they come for you, you are already dead. Your body just hasn’t stopped moving yet. Cops have shit aiming skills. If you open your door with a Molotov Cocktail and a shotgun, you are taking the quick death, and giving the ones you don’t kill and maim a real and present danger for every single time they follow illegal orders. If you just go peacefully, you’re the only one that is gonna die, and you are going to die as a slave in an El Salvadorian prison.

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          The goal is not to take out the entirety of ICE yourself. The goal is if they come for you to go down fighting and hope to take at least one. The only other option is to go peacefully and be shipped to an El Salvadorian gulag. Where you’ll probably die anyway.

          Better to die trying imo

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            If you really thought this you wouldn’t wait. You would ambush them so that you can take more out. Y’all are just larping.

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          What’s the alternative? At a certain point it’s fight back or lay down and die. These are literally Nazis. We’re in a bad situation

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          8 days ago

          If you’re talking about organized resistance, the police can be greatly outnumbered. Mostly unarmed people took over a precinct during BLM protests.

          If talking about defending yourself in your home, I’d rather die quickly at home than at a prison that tortures people. Hell, I’d rather die than spend 20+ years in a regular US prison.

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      7 days ago

      You don’t. You’re supposed to kill as many as you can before they take you out. You’re dead either way.

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      7 days ago

      Don’t have to get them all by yourself. If everyone they try to arrest gets just one of them they will run out of men a lot faster than they will arrest everyone they want to get rid of. There are way way way way more of us than there are of them if we would get off our asses and stand up for each other and ourselves.