• Atomic@sh.itjust.works
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    5 days ago

    I don’t see a problem with having people provide ID to vote. That’s how you make sure they are who they say they are.

    I don’t have the data. But im willing to bet that providing ID to vote is the norm around the world. I know for fact it is in EU at least.

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      The problem is that every time Republicans get something like this passed, their very next step will be to make it harder to get. Maybe they add new requirements to get the ID, or maybe they close half the administrative offices in “undesirable” districts, or maybe they raise the cost. It’s always something. Their goal is not to secure elections, it’s to discourage people from voting. The people it discourages most are the ones with the least free time to jump through hoops. A single mother with two jobs is not going to allocate too much time to voting.

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        5 days ago

        Fair point. Something I did not consider.

        Though as far as I can recall, Democrats have done little to actually make voting more accessible. From what I can see, neither party seems interested. A simple step such as holding elections on a weekend or non-working day where the majority is free would go a long way. Not to play whatabout here. The idea of having to prove you’re a citizen to vote is reasonable. Your fear is they will make that proof unreasonably difficult to attain is understandable.

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      I don’t see a problem with having people provide ID to vote

      I just explained it.

      That’s how you make sure they are who they say they are.

      No, the current default is voter registration cards.

      https://www.usa.gov/voter-id

      Basically you go to the election office, or your state’s website. Then you fill out everything that proves who you are (current address, SSN, etc), and they give you a registration card to prove you are who you are.

      Or you register for a mail in ballot, which is basically the same process, but they just know where you live and therefore where to send your ballot.

      This sounds the same, bit the difference is that registration cards are free, and can be done online. Other forms of ID like drivers licenses and passports are not free, require transportation to some office, and take time out of your day during business hours (potentially hours, and potentially requiring time off from work which is an additional barrier).

      They are not the same.

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        I just explained it.

        Let me rephrase then. My opinion is that having to provide valid ID to vote in an election is reasonable.

        My understanding is they are putting in the step that you need to prove citizenship when registering to vote. By Birth Certificate, US Passport, or naturalization documentation.

        Most people should have their birth certificate. And if they don’t, you can request it from your government, I’ve seen that costs 50 dollars, it should be free. I’m sorry it’s not.

        When you file to change your name, now you also have to file to change your birth certificate, that should be done automatically, I’m sorry it’s not.

        I don’t think the idea, of making sure your voters are citizens and who they say they are, is unreasonable. I’m a bit surprised it already wasn’t the case. But yes, I agree that the whole procedure of registering to vote is sub-optimal.

        I also think it kind of pales in comparison when you think about how the entire system after votes are cast works. If you’re a republican in California or a Democrat in Texas, you might as just not vote. After the opposite party “win the state” your vote no longer matters. That shouldn’t be the case. Each and every vote should have equal worth.