Putting aside the, “Everyone but an idiot knows the poor must be kept poor, or they will never be productive” logic, it’s also just dumb as shit to claim that “able-bodied young men” are going to be super motivated to get off the couch for the sake of health insurance - not even real healthcare, we’re talking about paying hundreds of dollars a month so that if you get sick you can “only” be saddled with a very high deductible.
I fucking hate these people’s guts. Something something Luigi’s Mansion.
Health care is a human right
Where are they getting free healthcare from? I’d like it. Oh does Canada have this problem? No? Huh
We still have widespread disengagement in Canada too because the problem isn’t the healthcare.
The problem is wage suppression and corporate greed.
Meanwhile: Politicians who never had a day of honest work their entire life.
Free healthcare doesn’t pay rent or utilities. I would love to stay at home and play video games regardless of my healthcare status, but I simply couldn’t afford to.
Lyin’ Mike at it again
Where can I get this free healtcare that pays your rent?
By getting elected to Senate or Congress
The lord needs to help these people. They’re cooked.
I’m flabbergasted
Didn’t you know sex is bad? It’s absolutely reprehensible and the only allowable exception is for the purposes of procreation, where you are allowed only to use the missionary position and your lawfully wedded wife is to be completely obscured by a blanket covering her entire body apart from a small hole in her crotch area. You can not look down or touch her body with your hands at any point, you should be reciting prayer the entire time and preferably keep one hand on the Bible during the whole process.
All other ways to engage with sexual acts and sexuality are unnatural, ungodly and frankly disgusting.
Since I am not from the us or ever been there, I do have a question: are there people that truly believe in this bullshit?
Yes, but they get there “backwards”.
It’s not like they believe healthcare is inherently demotivating, it’s that they’re already Red Team members, and “Healthcare and welfare breed moochers” is a Red Team belief, and since they’re good Red Team members, they synthesize it into their belief system–despite the fact functionally no one rips off the healthcare system because, frankly, you have to have some kind of pathology to visit a doctor enough for fraud to be an issue.
I mean “Oh noes, they’re ripping off the healthcare systems by… (checks notes) …getting antibiotics for their earache!!” is not a thing. Ever.
Everyone, even in countries with socialized medicine, avoids interactions with the healthcare system until they need to. I mean, do you you really want to recreationally get your throat swabbed? I’m sure there’s four people on this planet of nine billion who get off on that, but that’s it.
Now, rich people, they come to this believe authentically. They hate public healthcare because a) they have to pay for it, and b) it’s one less piece of leverage they have to keep people shackled to work. But make no mistake, they also suffer from the delusion, above.
The answer is about half of them do and the other half don’t and are there to fleece the first half. You see the same pattern with priests, where some of them are true believers and the rest are just there to devour the flock.
In a crowd of 200 people, you are nearly guaranteed to have a sociopath without any kind of conscience. These people are more or less like sharks and move around and devour those around them without a second thought. It’s a shame, because they are often the limiting factor to scaling any kind of human organization.
So many of the rules and restrictions we have today are due to these people, and sadly, it’s just part of the human condition.
It must be really nice to live in a world where your own idiotic opinions don’t lead to any meaningful consequences for yourself.
Please tell me more about this free healthcare
I mean, isn’t that kinda true? I have Medicare disability and Medicaid. I don’t need to work for it. In fact, I need to not work to get it. I also get disability, so motivation for work is low.
I mean maybe you do, but not being able to afford healthcare doesn’t automatically mean you’re just choosing to play video games all day. I know a guy who’s in his second year of med school, does community health volunteering in his free time, and is on Medicaid with the intention of helping others on Medicaid when he finishes.
There’s tons of children dependent on Medicaid, pregnant women, people with disabilities, people who work full time but still fall below the poverty line. There are so many different people that depend on Medicaid for different reasons. That’s why cutting it to give wealthy people a tax cut is a disgusting thing to do.
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If you’re a member of this society and disabled, society should take care of you, otherwise it’s a shite society.
The problem is our society is hostile towards the concept of… Society.
We’ve been poisoned to believe individualism is strength when it is weakness. We’ve been propagandized to resent Americans when they fall on hard times, angry when they draw on herp derp muh tax dollars so as not to die when they lose a job or get an illness.
The US has a profound, deep rooted culture problem. We’re more a gaggle of wannabe rugged individuals undermining one another for oligarch crumbs than a society. That’s why I want this place to collapse, as both parties want that hyperindivualism poison to keep running us, because only under that die alone, sink or swim, winners and losers race to the bottom national ethos can the owners continue to exploit us to death for ever moar profit that’s still never enough.
It’s brought nothing but misery, it’s destroyed the social contract, and it’s destroying the planet. If we do not end our worship of the individual and the pursuit of avarice, it will end us.
I don’t know… I think it’s the phrase “government teet” that I don’t like. I don’t ever want to be portrayed as suckling at the government’s teet. But yeah, I mean, they hardly give me anything anyways.
That phrase is again just the perverse villainization of the social contract and being a society, and it ultimately only benefits those that want to extract wealth from societies instead of being a member of one.
I’m sorry that it sounds like you’ve internalized that capitalist aggression meant to keep our citizenry undermining one another instead of lifting one another up. If you’re disabled, your society should be judged for failing to give you adequate aid.
Pretty rich coming from a guy who lets trump take every power congress is supposed to hold. WTF does he even do at work? If we stopped paying him, would anything at all happen? Every republican seems like a whiny crybullying grifter to me.
I would prefer to work a job than to grind in a videogame. Unfortunately, Americans live in a nation where bad working conditions, low pay, heavy competition, instability, and ghost jobs makes job seeking unpalatable.
American capitalism is a cancer.
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True. Even the Nordic Model nations are backsliding from what I hear. It is why I think that we need to try an wholly artificial economic system, with rules and principles. Similar to a Constitution’s framework, but focused on providing for the wellbeing of all citizens.
Yes socialism will work with another name attached to it.
The only social system that can work is if democracy comes into the workplace, and that is what socialism is. When workers unite and control the means of production, then we will all truly be free. This is what Marx meant by saying: “Workers of the world unite, you have nothing to lose but your chains.”
The only problem is the name. Some have called it democracy at work, but I feel that is not snappy enough.
He knows this is false. It’s bait, that even i see this time. There really is nothing to see here
