I’m glad that you’re able to absolve yourself of the role you chose to play in electing a guy who’s building fucking concentration camps. See, me? I don’t think I’d be able to live with myself after that. But then I am not a complete fucking piece of shit.
Do you remember in the first Trump administration when he separated thousands of children from their parents, and then just kinda… lost them? One of the things that the Biden administration did was track down several hundred of those kids and families and reunite them. If Trump hadn’t have instigated that policy in the first place, those families would not have been separated and Biden wouldn’t have had to dedicate significantly more time to cleaning up the mess than Trump did in making it.
I get it. You hate the rightward drift that’s been encapsulating the Democratic party since Eisenhower. I agree with you. But you know what? They’re way fucking better than the alternative, and the alternative is what you decided you were ok with when you didn’t vote. So your bullshit justifications are falling on deaf ears here, because I don’t want to hear why you think it’s ok giving the reins to this fucking madman in the hopes that at some point in time, the lives he ruined will be made whole.
They’re way fucking better than the alternative, and the alternative is what you decided you were ok with when you didn’t vote.
The margin between them narrows every election cycle, and every election cycle we’re told by people who totally agree with us that the rightward shift is bad that we need to shut up and vote how we’re ordered because the other side is decreasingly worse than we are.
The margin between them narrows every election cycle
Uh huh. And that’s why it’s imperative that we do everything we can to primary these fucks and get them out of office. But none of that fucking matters during a general election, which is what this chucklefuck failed to vote in. In the general election, you are presented with limited options, and you vote for the option that is better for most people EVERY FUCKING TIME. Doing otherwise puts you anywhere on the spectrum from a bad citizen to a complete monster.
Did you expect that it would work forever?
Do you think that I am in charge of the Democratic party? What the fuck are you blaming me for? You voted for Harris, too, you fucking nitwit.
You know what’s way better than rectifying a mess? Not making a mess in the first fucking place. Or are you going to try to convince me that Harris would also be building concentration camps and detaining American citizens, or planning out the condos America’s going to build in the Gaza Strip once Israel finishes leveling it?
I’m really trying to make sense of what you wrote, but you’re sort of doing my head in with your twisted logic.
Are you saying that because Harris didn’t pander to this idiot specifically that there is no reason he should vote for her? Because that’s really fucking stupid. You vote for Harris because she’s not fucking Donald Trump. Just like you vote for ANYBODY other than Adolf Hitler.
Is the problem just that you don’t think Trump is that bad, or something? Like… haven’t you read the news once in the last 8 years?
Is your problem that you think there are too many living Palestinians or something?
What? I get that you’re trying to paint me as pro-genocide because I voted for Harris (which is something that you did too, as you just pointed out, you genocide loving fuck), but that only makes sense if Harris would be worse than Trump in this area, and that’s a really hard fucking sell. So unless you’re just spewing nonsense because you like the way the letters look when you type them out, what the fuck are you actually trying to say?
What? I get that you’re trying to paint me as pro-genocide because I voted for Harris (which is something that you did too, as you just pointed out, you genocide loving fuck)
Huh. That’s weird. I thought we could vote for a candidate without agreeing with them about everything. I thought we were supposed to vote blue no matter who, too. I guess centrists will say any old shit just to get people to vote for their genocide.
Jesus Christ, you’re stupid. Like, I thought you were just pretending to be stupid on the internet, for laughs or whatever. But you are actually straight up stick-a-fork-in-a-light-socket-because-you-wonder-what-will-happen stupid.
I called you a genocide loving fuck to point out your very blatant hypocrisy. The fact that you didn’t understand that is gobsmacking, to say the least. How did you manage to make it to adulthood? Did your parents put 3 feet of padding on every sharp corner or something?
“Kamala decided to do a rally in Wyoming alongside Liz Cheney so I decided that I would be ok with America electing a traitorous monster for a second time” is not exactly the flex you think it is, hombre.
Harris and Biden are fine with killing children as they scrounge for food. That’s not a ticket I’m going to cast a vote for. Sorry!
If Harris had made an explicit statement condemning Israel’s crimes and promising to get a ceasefire, I would have held my nose and voted. She didn’t, so I didn’t.
The anger people have for me is misplaced. You all should be outraged that the system forces people to choose between child killers and criminals for our leadership.
That the system sucks doesn’t absolve people from the choices they make when they have the opportunity. People who chose to not vote passively supported whomever won, thus Trump. Everyone who chose not to vote is culpable for the suffering the administration causes, aids or allows.
It was a trolley problem, anyone claiming that washing their hands of the decision means they bear no responsibility for the results is deluding themselves.
It even doesn’t makes sense if you’re a single issue voter on genocide. There are only 3 possibilities:
Thryet Believe Trump would support it less, they should vote for Trump, as that would reduce it.
They Believe both support it about the same, they should vote based the 2nd/3rd/etc issue, because you can’t impact you first, so you should impact something else you care about.
They Believe Harris would support it less, they should vote for Harris, as that would reduce it.
If Harris had said two weeks before the vote that she thought what was going on was a genocide, she’d be in office right now. That was her choice. Stop trying to blame everyone else for her stupid campaign choices. Its sexist to take away her agency and pretend she made no choices. If she is good enough to have been president, she’s good enough to own her mistakes.
Well, Gaza is doing so much better now, isn’t it? I blame everyone who had a choice between status quo and ICE sending people to concentration camps and didn’t show up to prevent what’s happening right now. Fuck off with that “sexist” bullshit and trying to shift blame away from everyone who who could have helped prevent this and chose not to.
Well…yes…saying not Trump while raking in donations is much more profitable than having to go through the trouble of making policy.
They don’t give any fuuuucks.
I’m getting pilloried in another chat for not voting in 2024 but this is as much their fault as the Republicans’
Well thanks for contributing to the problem. Really happy you decided that you couldn’t be fucked to vote against a dictator. Appreciate you.
He drives the car they built for him 🤷🏻♀️
I’m glad that you’re able to absolve yourself of the role you chose to play in electing a guy who’s building fucking concentration camps. See, me? I don’t think I’d be able to live with myself after that. But then I am not a complete fucking piece of shit.
What do you think Biden and Obama were doing? Not also caging people?
Do you remember in the first Trump administration when he separated thousands of children from their parents, and then just kinda… lost them? One of the things that the Biden administration did was track down several hundred of those kids and families and reunite them. If Trump hadn’t have instigated that policy in the first place, those families would not have been separated and Biden wouldn’t have had to dedicate significantly more time to cleaning up the mess than Trump did in making it.
I get it. You hate the rightward drift that’s been encapsulating the Democratic party since Eisenhower. I agree with you. But you know what? They’re way fucking better than the alternative, and the alternative is what you decided you were ok with when you didn’t vote. So your bullshit justifications are falling on deaf ears here, because I don’t want to hear why you think it’s ok giving the reins to this fucking madman in the hopes that at some point in time, the lives he ruined will be made whole.
Your blind support for people who don’t represent their constituents is why no one voted for your team dumbass.
I love how you people keep blaming voters for not wanting to vote for your candidate instead of your candidate for being dogwater
The margin between them narrows every election cycle, and every election cycle we’re told by people who totally agree with us that the rightward shift is bad that we need to shut up and vote how we’re ordered because the other side is decreasingly worse than we are.
Did you expect that it would work forever?
Uh huh. And that’s why it’s imperative that we do everything we can to primary these fucks and get them out of office. But none of that fucking matters during a general election, which is what this chucklefuck failed to vote in. In the general election, you are presented with limited options, and you vote for the option that is better for most people EVERY FUCKING TIME. Doing otherwise puts you anywhere on the spectrum from a bad citizen to a complete monster.
Do you think that I am in charge of the Democratic party? What the fuck are you blaming me for? You voted for Harris, too, you fucking nitwit.
Wait for Democrats to regain control and please come to tell me which Trump actions they rectify, roll back, or hold anybody accountable for.
You know what’s way better than rectifying a mess? Not making a mess in the first fucking place. Or are you going to try to convince me that Harris would also be building concentration camps and detaining American citizens, or planning out the condos America’s going to build in the Gaza Strip once Israel finishes leveling it?
If they weren’t significant enough to listen to, they’re not significant enough to blame.
If you want to blame them, first admit that you were wrong to ignore them in favor of netanyahu and cheney.
I’m really trying to make sense of what you wrote, but you’re sort of doing my head in with your twisted logic.
Are you saying that because Harris didn’t pander to this idiot specifically that there is no reason he should vote for her? Because that’s really fucking stupid. You vote for Harris because she’s not fucking Donald Trump. Just like you vote for ANYBODY other than Adolf Hitler.
Is the problem just that you don’t think Trump is that bad, or something? Like… haven’t you read the news once in the last 8 years?
I’m saying that there a lot of people she shouldn’t have actively worked to alienate.
And I did. I also understand that genocide support is a bridge too far for some people.
Is your problem that you think there are too many living Palestinians or something?
What? I get that you’re trying to paint me as pro-genocide because I voted for Harris (which is something that you did too, as you just pointed out, you genocide loving fuck), but that only makes sense if Harris would be worse than Trump in this area, and that’s a really hard fucking sell. So unless you’re just spewing nonsense because you like the way the letters look when you type them out, what the fuck are you actually trying to say?
Huh. That’s weird. I thought we could vote for a candidate without agreeing with them about everything. I thought we were supposed to vote blue no matter who, too. I guess centrists will say any old shit just to get people to vote for their genocide.
Jesus Christ, you’re stupid. Like, I thought you were just pretending to be stupid on the internet, for laughs or whatever. But you are actually straight up stick-a-fork-in-a-light-socket-because-you-wonder-what-will-happen stupid.
I called you a genocide loving fuck to point out your very blatant hypocrisy. The fact that you didn’t understand that is gobsmacking, to say the least. How did you manage to make it to adulthood? Did your parents put 3 feet of padding on every sharp corner or something?
One great best practice on Lemmy is to always ignore the fuck out of Ensign_Crab. All over the site and a true shit-for-brains.
Man that upvote downvote swing, never seen a person ratio themselves 😂
No, this is your fault if you didn’t vote against Trump.
Yes, definitely not the Democrats for running to the right and embracing the Cheneys…
“Kamala decided to do a rally in Wyoming alongside Liz Cheney so I decided that I would be ok with America electing a traitorous monster for a second time” is not exactly the flex you think it is, hombre.
I’m not OK with any of these people. Why are you OK with Harris?
There wasn’t anyone most people were ok with, but that doesn’t mean one of them wasn’t significantly more horrifying.
Harris and Biden are fine with killing children as they scrounge for food. That’s not a ticket I’m going to cast a vote for. Sorry!
If Harris had made an explicit statement condemning Israel’s crimes and promising to get a ceasefire, I would have held my nose and voted. She didn’t, so I didn’t.
The anger people have for me is misplaced. You all should be outraged that the system forces people to choose between child killers and criminals for our leadership.
Sorry I don’t want any part of that
You cannot speak sense to Blue maga
That the system sucks doesn’t absolve people from the choices they make when they have the opportunity. People who chose to not vote passively supported whomever won, thus Trump. Everyone who chose not to vote is culpable for the suffering the administration causes, aids or allows.
It was a trolley problem, anyone claiming that washing their hands of the decision means they bear no responsibility for the results is deluding themselves.
It even doesn’t makes sense if you’re a single issue voter on genocide. There are only 3 possibilities:
you said you dint vote, so why are you complaining about either party.
If Harris had said two weeks before the vote that she thought what was going on was a genocide, she’d be in office right now. That was her choice. Stop trying to blame everyone else for her stupid campaign choices. Its sexist to take away her agency and pretend she made no choices. If she is good enough to have been president, she’s good enough to own her mistakes.
Well, Gaza is doing so much better now, isn’t it? I blame everyone who had a choice between status quo and ICE sending people to concentration camps and didn’t show up to prevent what’s happening right now. Fuck off with that “sexist” bullshit and trying to shift blame away from everyone who who could have helped prevent this and chose not to.