Reported for an editorialized headline, please correct it or we’ll have to remove it:
“Hakeem Jeffries makes it clear he’ll stand by incumbent House Dems”
Nothing there about “progressives”. Subtitle makes it clear he’s opposing David Hogg’s single agenda candidates.
House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries on Sunday pushed back on David Hogg’s effort to fund primary challengers against select Democrats in deep blue seats, arguing in favor of a more efficient allocation of party resources.
I mean this is the first line of the article where he’s saying he’s against progress
He can do whatever he wants. We have primaries for this very reason.
Progressives basically won control of the DNC. Did the old guard really think they were just going to get to sit there & do nothing?
It’s almost like if you need people to vote for your agenda, you can’t tell them “suck it, I’m gonna support an effort to oust you”
Crossing your arms and going “No, I won’t vote for your agenda without your full support!” when the alternative to voting for that agenda is literally fucking fascism is flat out saying you support fascism more than you support your own party. Tell progressives how they’re doing it wrong more, I’m sure it will win important elections like it… hasn’t.
This fucking “I was here first, and have seniority, so I deserve first choice” stuff is grade school bullshit.
You’re both right, and it doesn’t matter. They used to be playing a game with rules. Those are gone now, and nothing makes any sense.
Ultimately, it doesn’t matter what Jeffries says. Nothing any elected representatives can do is effectual anymore. Fourth box time.
Spicy. Hard truth no one wants to acknowledge. You don’t beat cancer by ignoring it until it’s metastasized everywhere then try to make deals with it for your life.
Modern conservativism is a moral and economic cancer. It breeds to harm people. We need to disenfranchise those cancerous people one way or another. Federate them into their own states to run into the ground or put them there ourselves.
He’s defending all incumbents
Sure he is. Like Cori Bush and Jamaal Bowman.
The only incumbents that get protection are shitstreaks like coathanger cuellar.
Except yes, he is defending them? What’s your point?
Except yes, he is defending them?
Except no, the party absolutely did not protect Cori Bush or Jamaal Bowman.
Doubling down on losing. The DNC WANTS Trump in power
Not enough leftists voted for Harris.
A lot of republicans are going to vote “not Trump” because of the damage Trump is doing now. Those votes will be easier to earn than progressive votes.
When leftists don’t show up to vote, the government shifts right.
Why would a leftist vote for Harris or Biden? They are corporate Democrats who support MAGA and genocide. Leftists should vote for leftists, not Blue MAGA.
Because it is in their best interest to vote for them to prevent Trump from getting elected. Nobody votes for leftists. That’s why they never win elections.
And the leftists never show up. You’d be an absolute fool to rely on them.
republicans didn’t show up to vote for you either. But you want to kiss their asses even harder. I’m starting to think you just like the taste.
Reported for trying to start a slapfight snd moving on.
You don’t have to announce what you do every time you disagree with someone.
There’s a difference between disagreement and you trying to start a slapfight, which is what you tried. Anyway ciao before you continue.
There’s a difference between disagreement and you trying to start a slapfight, which is what you tried.
I mean, that’s one way to say I was right about every last thing I said and that you have no rebuttal. You gonna tell the mods that you think are your pets to ban me because I was right?
If they dont show up and you dont need their votes, why did Harris lose.
If the leftists can’t show up for their own friggin human rights, they either don’t exist or will literally never ever show up.
Progressives have an extremely high turnout rate, what a bunch of bullshit. You just like blaming us because then you don’t have to face the fact that the DNC leaders that you liars enable are fucking morons.
Every time you lose it’s magically the progressives’ fault. And you fall for it every single time. You can’t even turn out your own so-called “moderate” base, but you’ll never try to find out why. So much easier to play politics instead.
Every time the Dems even look left, they lose. Every single time. Then the next Dem goes to the center and wins. Every single time.
Democrats lost in 2016 and 2024 by chasing Republicans who they thought would vote, “not Trump.” They won in 2020 by offering a progressive economic vision. There is no evidence to support the idea that Republican voters will be easier to earn.
Trust me guys, this time the Republicans will finally be done with Trump!
“C’mon guys, just a little further to the right and we’ll start winning! Ignore the last four times we lost by doing this and remember the one time it worked in 1992!”
Democrats won the majority of elections since the 90s.
And only one candidate (Clinton) won by going to the right. Obama ran as a progressive (and governed as a centrist-technocrat) while Biden ran on a progressive platform (which he couldn’t get passed because of Manchin and Sinema).
and 10 other DINOS, machin and sinema were just the lightning rod for critcisim, for the ones that are afraid of getting primaried.
while Biden ran on a progressive platform (which he couldn’t get passed because of Manchin and Sinema).
Well, and because it was a pack of lies from the start.
Obama won because he appealed to centrists
and governed as a centrist-technocrat
This is what got him elected and re-elected. Appealing to centrists
The dnc would prefer a hereditary dictatorship led by the trump family to any progressive in any position for any length of time.
Well…yes…saying not Trump while raking in donations is much more profitable than having to go through the trouble of making policy.
They don’t give any fuuuucks.
I’m getting pilloried in another chat for not voting in 2024 but this is as much their fault as the Republicans’
Man that upvote downvote swing, never seen a person ratio themselves 😂
Well thanks for contributing to the problem. Really happy you decided that you couldn’t be fucked to vote against a dictator. Appreciate you.
If they weren’t significant enough to listen to, they’re not significant enough to blame.
If you want to blame them, first admit that you were wrong to ignore them in favor of netanyahu and cheney.
I’m really trying to make sense of what you wrote, but you’re sort of doing my head in with your twisted logic.
Are you saying that because Harris didn’t pander to this idiot specifically that there is no reason he should vote for her? Because that’s really fucking stupid. You vote for Harris because she’s not fucking Donald Trump. Just like you vote for ANYBODY other than Adolf Hitler.
Is the problem just that you don’t think Trump is that bad, or something? Like… haven’t you read the news once in the last 8 years?
One great best practice on Lemmy is to always ignore the fuck out of Ensign_Crab. All over the site and a true shit-for-brains.
Are you saying that because Harris didn’t pander to this idiot specifically that there is no reason he should vote for her?
I’m saying that there a lot of people she shouldn’t have actively worked to alienate.
You vote for Harris because she’s not fucking Donald Trump.
And I did. I also understand that genocide support is a bridge too far for some people.
Is the problem just that you don’t think Trump is that bad, or something?
Is your problem that you think there are too many living Palestinians or something?
Is your problem that you think there are too many living Palestinians or something?
What? I get that you’re trying to paint me as pro-genocide because I voted for Harris (which is something that you did too, as you just pointed out, you genocide loving fuck), but that only makes sense if Harris would be worse than Trump in this area, and that’s a really hard fucking sell. So unless you’re just spewing nonsense because you like the way the letters look when you type them out, what the fuck are you actually trying to say?
He drives the car they built for him 🤷🏻♀️
I’m glad that you’re able to absolve yourself of the role you chose to play in electing a guy who’s building fucking concentration camps. See, me? I don’t think I’d be able to live with myself after that. But then I am not a complete fucking piece of shit.
What do you think Biden and Obama were doing? Not also caging people?
Do you remember in the first Trump administration when he separated thousands of children from their parents, and then just kinda… lost them? One of the things that the Biden administration did was track down several hundred of those kids and families and reunite them. If Trump hadn’t have instigated that policy in the first place, those families would not have been separated and Biden wouldn’t have had to dedicate significantly more time to cleaning up the mess than Trump did in making it.
I get it. You hate the rightward drift that’s been encapsulating the Democratic party since Eisenhower. I agree with you. But you know what? They’re way fucking better than the alternative, and the alternative is what you decided you were ok with when you didn’t vote. So your bullshit justifications are falling on deaf ears here, because I don’t want to hear why you think it’s ok giving the reins to this fucking madman in the hopes that at some point in time, the lives he ruined will be made whole.
Wait for Democrats to regain control and please come to tell me which Trump actions they rectify, roll back, or hold anybody accountable for.
You know what’s way better than rectifying a mess? Not making a mess in the first fucking place. Or are you going to try to convince me that Harris would also be building concentration camps and detaining American citizens, or planning out the condos America’s going to build in the Gaza Strip once Israel finishes leveling it?
No, this is your fault if you didn’t vote against Trump.
If Harris had said two weeks before the vote that she thought what was going on was a genocide, she’d be in office right now. That was her choice. Stop trying to blame everyone else for her stupid campaign choices. Its sexist to take away her agency and pretend she made no choices. If she is good enough to have been president, she’s good enough to own her mistakes.
Well, Gaza is doing so much better now, isn’t it? I blame everyone who had a choice between status quo and ICE sending people to concentration camps and didn’t show up to prevent what’s happening right now. Fuck off with that “sexist” bullshit and trying to shift blame away from everyone who who could have helped prevent this and chose not to.
Yes, definitely not the Democrats for running to the right and embracing the Cheneys…
“Kamala decided to do a rally in Wyoming alongside Liz Cheney so I decided that I would be ok with America electing a traitorous monster for a second time” is not exactly the flex you think it is, hombre.
I’m not OK with any of these people. Why are you OK with Harris?
There wasn’t anyone most people were ok with, but that doesn’t mean one of them wasn’t significantly more horrifying.
you said you dint vote, so why are you complaining about either party.
I knew he was just doing the fillibuster for fame…
It wasn’t even a filibuster. There was no bill on the floor to be delayed by him. He was just running his mouth to hear his own voice.
That’s not Booker. Also the house doesn’t do filibusters, it operates on straight majorities.
he has always been a corporate stooge pretending to be progressive. Dems wouldnt have allowed him to be in that position if they knew he wouldn’t protect the status quo. he can be voted out too.
He’s not much better of a leader than Schumer, might even be worse in some ways - for one, he’s miserable at communicating to the public. We need a lot better from dem leadership.
At least chuck has the excuse of age, even though he’s always been awful.
Jeffrey wouldn’t be here if it wasn’t for Nancy
We’ve tried nothing and we’re fresh out of ideas, he says while defunding new ideas.
How many times will the US elect a fascist before they realize the dems cannot be saved so long as they hitch their wagon to the donor class.
Great, one more name on the list of “Dipshits who need to be voted out of power”. What a shame /s.
The title is not supported by the article at all. Here’s the entirety of its quote from Jeffries:
“Here’s the thing,” Jeffries told Jonathan Karl on ABC’s “This Week.” “I’m gonna really focus on trying to defeat Republican incumbents so we can take back control of the House of Representatives and begin the process of ending this national nightmare that’s being visited upon us by far-right extremism.”
It’s at best dodging the question. I assume Jeffries will support his incumbents and isn’t a friend to progressives in general, but this statement isn’t making clear anything.
He just opposed a plan to put money behind progressive candidates.
Progressive candidates in safe seats would allow them a platform to spread progressive messaging, showing americans that the Dems can offer a platform to get excited about, without sacrificing their ability to tack right in specific electorates where that’s tactically sound.
There are seats where the realistic choice is a fascist or a conservative dem. Focusing funds to those battles ensures the democratic party stays conservative, fails to offer a meaningful alternative, and fails to avert fascism.
There are seats where the realistic choice is a fascist or a conservative dem.
To hear centrists talk about it, this is all seats.
“He opposed” as in subtly redirecting the conversation to the preferred narrative of the opposition. He didn’t even say that money shouldn’t be spent, just that he was focused on the battleground seats. Which is barely a bullet point in a daily political activity summary, but became a whole story with a clickbait headline because news is about clicks, not importance.
Primary Jeffries lol
“We cannot just be the party that is against Donald Trump,” Hogg said. “We have to be a party that doesn’t have a 27 percent approval rating from our own base. That is not a survivable future. And the way that we change that is making sure that we have some different characters.”
Please do!
Clearly the answer to the dems problems is to push out progressives, bring republicans into the party, and continue supporting genocide. Why has no one thought of this before? Lets try it and see what happens.
I think most Democratic voters are going to associate Israel with Trump, given who their regime has been very vocally supporting. Democratic politicians need to get serious about this issue. Not that I actually expect them to.
Democratic politicians need to get serious about this issue.
Oh they have. They have been serious all along. In favor of netanyahu.
We deserve whatever is coming to us…. The iceberg is right there and we are full steam into it while we can clearly see it.
Choose another path… Nah. It’ll be fine…. 🤞
