• Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world
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    9 hours ago

    I’m just so impressed by them. Forgoing all forms of capitalism so they are not totally responsible for the outcomes of capitalist society. It’s a principled stance but living in stateless, technology absent, collectives outside the rule of the government is not an easy life.

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      i love the fact that their science says that the fact that their system has never worked proves that it will surely work next time

      i think i prefer real science

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        9 hours ago

        I was talking about this with my wife. I’d live in a socialist or communist run government, at least the one they fantasize about, but I would never live long enough to see it enacted, as leftists envision.

        So in my mind I have two choices that aren’t exactly mutually exclusive:

        1.) Openly support communism without thought about what the final outcome of that may actually be because I won’t be alive to guide it (as if I’d have much say).

        2.) Just keep working to make the world I live in better

        Both are fine options and I can do both but they would have me chose the former and exclude the latter.

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          Openly support communism without thought about what the final outcome of that may actually be

          Just keep working to make the world I live in better

          They’re the same picture.

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              Working to make the world you live in better even though you don’t know what the final outcome of that work may actually be?

              You’re just more confident than I am that liberalism doesn’t end poorly

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                I know surefire improvements we can make to the way things are now better. I don’t trust anyone with the authority required to force socialism/communism on a hostile populace.

                So, I’m actually quite reasoned if you were honest with yourself.

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                  I know surefire improvements we can make to the way things are now better

                  Yea, me too.

                  I don’t trust anyone with the authority

                  Yea, me too.