• cayde6ml@lemmygrad.ml
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      Of course not.

      Edit: I mean of course there are no excuses. I’d like to think that maybe Russia only invited Israel to talk down to them, but I think that’s extremely wishful thinking and unlikely.

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        Agreed.

        Yeah, I’m anti-NATO, trust me, but I’m not pro-Putin, who has only doubled down on his bad domestic policies.

        I support Russian communists first and foremost.

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          Same here.

          I think Putin gets a metric-shit ton of bad rep for stuff that isn’t his fault or isn’t exclusively his fault, and he has done alot of genuinely good things for his country that people don’t talk about much.

          But I also hold the opinion that regardless of him constantly being slandered and demonized by the western mainstream global capitalist news media, he is a still a fucking horrible, manipulative reich-wing dictator who belongs in prison or in the ground, and he isn’t a good person or an ally, just a tool.

          I have serious problems with how alot of Russian communists seem to be socially reich-wing, but I understand that some of that could be just trying to survive in the bourgeois Russian regime.

          But yes, Russia’s communists are the main “good guys” here.

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            Yeah, though the communist party in Russia has issues, constantly kowtowing to Putin and United Russia at the worst of times.

            And then being surprised when their headquarters get attacked or searched by the authorities.

            There are many rank-and-file (and even leaders) that are good, I think, much like most communist parties in SolidNet (I don’t believe in the old mantra “The leaders suck but the people are good” since the truth is more complicated than that and you can’t really separate the two). But honestly, they try to play both sides or try to come off as “respectable” in Russian politics at the worst time. Not surprisingly, they also hold certain conservative views on sexuality and gender, including, of course, transphobia and queerphobia.

            I suppose Yogthos could explain more since he’s Russian, I think, but that’s where I stand.

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              Wouldn’t them kowtowing to Putin make them less likely to be raided, in their eyes?

              Though I suppose it’s a double-edged sword kind of thing.

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                6 days ago

                Keep in mind they don’t always do that, but Putin is still anti-communist either way, and that will never change.

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        Extremely wishful thinking is that Putin plans for Zelenskyy to actually attack Moscow during the festivities and will kill off the Israelis attending during the commotion.

        Talking down to Israel is something that actually could happen. I believe Putin is known to be rude and disrespectful during dipolmatic meetings, when he can get away with it.

        Regardless, it’s because refusing to allow Israel to attend wouldn’t help with any of Russia’s political goals.

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          He may be rude and disrespectful, but, much as I like him sticking it to the Israelis, I don’t think even that will happen.

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          I’m not necessarily doubting you, but I feel like you have some examples of Putin being rude and disrespectful during diplomatic meetings, and I’d love to see them.

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            Tbh, I have noticed that he can be very… “showy” when it comes to how he conducts meetings, such as when he threw a pen for a business executive to sign when he was forcing them to comply with a law (BBC reported on it and bemoaned the fact that he was meeting them face to face while the grumpy business CEO was rigidly signing the pen).

            In that sense, he is indeed, well, rude, though I don’t blame him in that instance.

            Still, it does speak to a sense of pride and combativeness, I suppose, whether he needs those qualities or not.

            I also know that he tells “improper jokes” sometimes, like when he said that he “doesn’t condone prostitution” but then quips “but we do have the best prostitutes in the world.”

            (My memory is fuzzy on that last one; it was worded in a way that was tongue and cheek when Russia was lambasted in public forums for having rampant prostitution.)

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              I remember that first incident, it was funny AF.

              I was hoping there would be more funny ones, but yeah, all of this checks out.

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                Yeah, the last example is a bit fuzzy. He’s very, err, opinionated, from what I can tell. Not sure if that’s really a stunning observation by me, or if that’s just par for course for world leaders, but there you go.