No need to name names or sources.

Mine has to be some dude that insisted that advertising is a “30,000 year old technology”

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    Confirmed: couldn’t even search females in lemmy. Disregards common classified ads. Claims “bad faith”.

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        That applies to your counterclaim, only worse: as a generalization, your claim has a greater burden. Instead of indicating evidence for your general claim, you only asserted. I’ve indicated evidence exists & where it’s readily found. Refuting a generalization merely requires counterexamples.

        The fact remains that counterexamples to your claim are common, which wouldn’t be expected if the conventional meaning were derogatory.

        Here’s an example quoting a story in the news:

        “What if I would have been armed,” she said. “You’re breaking in. What am I supposed to think? My initial thought was we were being robbed—that my daughters, being females, were being kidnapped. You have guns pointed in our faces. Can you just reprogram yourself and see us as humans, as women? A little bit of mercy. […]"

        So your claim is that by referring to her daughters as females, this mother is insulting them?

        While I might be able to argue in “bad faith”, the unsolicited speech productions of the community do not. Do you want more examples?

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            Counterexamples don’t require studies.

            Refuting the claim “men are generally bald” merely requires the existence of a few men who aren’t. You’re claiming “female is a derogatory noun to humans”: as shown it isn’t. Can you explain what the mother quoted in the news is saying about her daughters if your claim about female is true? No, your claim fails.

            Deny observable evidence all you want: your claim is false.

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              You have yet to show that it isn’t derogatory, so far you just have your own oppinion.

              Thus you are wrong.

              Now I do see that you are registered at lemmynsfw.com, generally I would not hold your instance against you if you make a resonable argument in good faith, but based on your creepy attitude and fixation with derogatory/demeaning terms combined with your instance of choice tells me that this is a kink, which is fine if done with consent, but you are pushing your kink on others outside of spaces where it is accepted.

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                You have yet to show that it isn’t derogatory, so far you just have your own oppinion.

                Examples have been given, so it’s not opinion: it’s plain observation which you’re denying.

                Where’s your evidence? You’ve only given an overgeneralization

                that is derogatory

                and questionable speculation (not observational evidence) that doesn’t support it.

                It is often used to dehumanize women, as the term is mostly used when talking about animals.

                Even if a term often dehumanizes, does it follow that the term itself is derogatory (especially if common uses often don’t dehumanize)?

                The speculation poses generalizations on observable phenomena.

                1. If a term is mostly used to talk about animals, then it’s dehumanizing.
                2. Noun female is mostly used to talk about animals.

                Some problems with that: where’s your observational, generalizable support for any of it? (Empirical generalizations need that type of support.) Is 2 even true & how would you show that?

                Does your overgeneralization withstand observation? No: if it did, then the example given & other refuting instances wouldn’t be easy to find.

                What is an empirical claim that fails to account for observable reality? Worthless.

                Outright denying observations that conflict with your claim/pretending they don’t exist is part confirmation bias & part selective evidence fallacy. Try respecting logic & choosing tenable claims that can withstand basic observation.

                FYI Linguistics and much of science rely on methods other than statistics. Classical & relativistic physics were developed without it. Planetary observations rejecting geocentrism didn’t involve statistics. Much of linguistics is detailed observation & analysis of language samples to identify patterns and rules, so good luck finding statistical studies to support your claims.

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                  lol, just because you post a long comment with links to Wikipedia, doesn’t mean that you are right.