I’m posting because originally when I was looking to create a Lemmy account I came across Hexbear. I read the code of conduct and TOS and to me it seemed like a great fit for me. However, after creating an account there, it seems pretty defederated.
Anyway I was curious on the happenings over there, because they have some cute custom emojis over there… but if there’s a reason they’re so defederated, I might just pretend i never made an account there
Ok, this isn’t really blahaj related and I think it has run its course.
It’s a tankie space where people simp for authoritarian governments.
Hexbear is a instance run by communist that some people hate because we can be a bit loud and snarky. Super trans friendly though 👍
0·5 hours agoI can’t see cm0002’s post here from lemmy.ml, but I want to point out that nutomic was banned from hexbear because of those statements.
There’s plenty more evidence of y’all’s behavior across the categories
!meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works (but you can’t see that one from .ml because .ml admins don’t want you see it (talk about censorship))
I do not know who either of those people are or what statements you refer to. I stay out of most of their drama
https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/21641836/12770035
tldr: Nutomic (one of the main developers of lemmy, and therefore an admin on lemmy.ml) was transphobic.
Damn what a loser, does dessalines still associate with them?
I think so. Nutomic is still a dev
Thats really unfortunate, I thought they’d be better than that
^ Yea sure bud
Tankies = Authoritarian “Communists”
Nutomic has an instance ban on Hexbear. Otherwise it’s generally a bit of a sore point between them and ML/the devs that nutomic’s around at all.
I know some of the lore but people have already answered that, so give you my experience, I joined it see what it’s like, I reported something that broke there ToS, I was then thrown on a community called “dunk tank” or something like that.
I was new to lemmy and it said in what I thought messages was that I got a message and then I responded to it
Apparently it’s against that community rules to respond to it
I was permanently banned
So, yeah hexbear is capitalist bootlickers who mask them selfs as communists.
Although tbh. Lemmy.world seems very capitalist loving but at least I don’t get instant banned because I’m new. Never had any problems with Lemmy.ml in my experience, but also I have some problems with shit just works (or whatever its called)
thezeesystem
There is an account with that name on hexbear, it has a completely blank modlog, or are you talking about some other account?
They are absolutely not capitalist bootlickers thats a wild ass take. I’m sorry they were mean to you, they got rid of the dunk_tank recently, though there was some drama about it and some communities popped up that essentially mimic it in a slightly less rude way. I’ve never found a community more accepting and understanding when you come to them in good faith and don’t say anything stupid about communism bc they will dog on you for that.
Not always true about the good faith. If you go against their core beliefs like “left unity” even outside their spaces, you can get in their shit list and get piled on. Happened to me in my own instance community.
don’t say anything stupid about communism
Oh yea like rightful and fair criticism of the CCP’s human rights violations or Putler’s unprovoked war
Just “stupid” things lol
And North Korea and Libya as well.
They just love to simp for dictators all over the world as long as they say they’re, “for the people.”
Hexbear was one of the earliest servers that is now part of the fediverse. It was started after chapo trap house was banned from Reddit.
Users there realized the danger of the rich being able to shut down online leftist spaces well before the first waves of reddit exodus.
They do not put up with the slightest whiff of transphobic bullshit and moderate & ban that crap swiftly.
You may hear some weird takes on the US’s global adversaries, but you won’t have to put up with weird takes on the US.
you know what else is massive?
Do you prefer North Korea and refer to South Korea as ‘Occupied Korea’? Those are the types of people on hexbear, lemmygrad, and .ml
… no. I was banned from r/pyongyang on reddit lol
Hexbear, Lemmygrad, .ml are all part of the Tankie Triad. The real rules are all unwritten and you’ll never know them till your posts get removed and you’re banned
Their support for trans is paper thin at best, this is what Nutomic, head dev, biggest Tankie and lead admin of .ml has to say about the trans community
something something 🇷🇺 🇨🇳 🪖 or whatever…
I’m not trans so I never had reason to go down this particular rabbithole, but I remember when I first I joined the platform there was some kind of commotion around Hexbear and nobody wanting to be federated with em because of their supposedly weird tankie politics. I’ve never seen any tangible evidence of this (insert lack of rabbithole following here), but reading the comments, there seems to be two stories and now I’m really curious what you find out here.
I’m not trans, but I can say that no matter the various reasons, my personal one was simple:
Everytime someone replied to one of my comments with the most asinine, absurd or just downright stupid asshole approaches, it was always hexbear.
Literally a sigh of relief when Lemmy added personal instance blocking. Immediately hit that button and never looked back.
I’ll report back with my findings!
Did a little spelunking and investigating, kinda leaning towards them all being tankies. At least in the few things I glanced at, there wasn’t anything extreme or over-the-top, but they also seemed quite happy to ban a user for very minor criticisms of the Orange Cunt and the instance mods also mod a looot of communism and CCP related communities, so ¯_(ツ)_/¯
Toying with making an account and posting a certain controversial image just to see what happens
seemed quite happy to ban a user for very minor criticisms of the Orange Cunt
Which user?
the instance mods also mod a looot of communism and CCP related communities
Could it be that they are communists, leftists (i.e. anti-capitalist)… as they declared themselves?
Toying with making an account and posting a certain controversial image just to see what happens
Since you are being vauge, I’m not sure which one you are talking about. But either you will be banned, probably for racism (implying a chinese person is yellow), or you will be given books and links to read/watch up on.
It’s not particularly hard to guess what image I’m referring to given the context of the thread, lol
Hint: It was taken in 1989
Lemmy instances are all independent and all have their own rules for posting and commenting. You will find that some communities allow things you find offensive, you will find that some communities ban things you find benign, this is decentralization in action.
If you consider yourself to be a leftist, you will find friends on the “tankie instances” (I can’t speak to lemmygrad, I’ve never interacted with them).
There are also instances that have defederated with .world, because they find it to be offensive.
Blahaj is one of the instances I generally find to be enjoyable personally.
Edit: Just wanted to add, I’ve had comments modded on hexbear and on .world, remember the rules of the instance you’re visiting.
So basically they’re just reaaallllyyy far left? Here’s the thing, I call myself a lefty, liberal, and progressive almost interchangeably. I don’t think I’d fit in there because obviously tiananmen square happened, and obviously what’s happening with Uyghur people is a goddamn travesty.
On top of that, while I think on paper communism sounds nice, in practice that’s not really the case.
Also, one of the things that bummed me out was losing access to cute custom emojis but I’ve since learned that blahaj has some
because obviously tiananmen square happened, and obviously what’s happening with Uyghur people is a goddamn travesty.
That one sentence would get removed and likely a comm ban on any of the Tankie Triad. .ml would remove it under their catchall “Rule 1: Bigotry”
That’s not really the issue. The issue is that hexbear allows and condones harassment and bullying. They also have a lot of “tankies” which are people who defend dictatorships and genocide.
cute custom emojis but I’ve since learned that blahaj has some
Blahaj could have you covered on that side!
Yep. They’re pretty much far left.
That’s a damn accurate pic describing those communities in a nutshell.
They just love simping for dictators as long as those dictators say they’re “for the people” as they’re committing crimes against humanity.
Lemmy.ml, lemmygrad, and hexbear are the 3 most well known instances to house pro CCP and Putin loyalists
I’d recommend just blocking those 3 as you’ll generally have a better time on the fediverse.
If you also check !yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com you also find that the moderators themselves are the reasons why those instances are toxic
Safest instance for trans people against genocide
That’s a straight up lie, lemmy.blahaj.zone is the trans-inclusive zone
Nobody has forgotten what Nutomic truly believes
What’s the message he’s replying to?
It stemmed from a private convo with @beaver@lemmy.ca
If you want to read through the lore you can checkout the pinned post and crossposts on !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works
No I’m just interested in the previous message. I can see it’s a private conversation and depending on why the previous message is, the meaning of Nutomic’s can change drastically. Posting a private message that clearly includes a suggestion from the message it’s replying to, in order to glean at a person’s position on something like that is sus to say the least.
Hey, quick question: In what context would these be acceptable things to say about trans people?
Depends what your interpretation of what was said is. If the interpretation is - putting LGBT flags on gov’t buildings is bad - then it isn’t acceptable. If the interpretation is - a description of what the owner class is doing in order to distract, without passing judgment whether those actions in and of themselves - then that would be acceptable (to me) because it’s just an observation of reality. Being charitable, reading the message doesn’t tell me which one it is.
You’re the type of person who would ask for context on the George Floyd video
Just asking about integration of an extension to help moderate against transphobes
Oh man… who is nutomic and how is he related to the Hexbear instance? Because fuck that guy
He’s not related to Hexbear. In fact he’s banned from it.
I just posted it as it’s own comment, but he’s the head Lemmy dev, huge Tankie and lead admin of .ml
.ml is part of the “Tankie Triad” along with hex and I can assure you those “ideals” persist through out, despite what they say.
They are tankies. They like China and Russia because they’re supposedly communist and ignore all the human rights violations.
Literally no one thinks post-1991 Russia is communist. Show me a single example.
True but I’ve also seen quite a few ml users defend russia invading ukraine and calling ukrainians vermin etc
It’s hilarious, because no good communist would call Russia and the CCP communism.
I was thinking to myself isn’t Russia today decidedly not communism
The top comment in this thread has no idea what they are talking about and I would not take them seriously. The communist opinions on China and Russia are so much more nuanced than they give credit for. Explaining them would actually take me hours to write but you can go there and ask. They will be forthcoming and genuine as long as you are.
It’s not, and literally no one on those instances thinks that it is.
They defend it to their dying breath though
Show me one single example of it, then. You can’t, because they don’t.
They… dont. Pointing out why the war happened, and wanting the war to end: understanding that the only way for the war to end being through negotiations where Ukraine gives up things, and therefore saying that Ukraine should negotiate and end the war, can to some look like defending Russia, it is not.
It’s amazing that when faced with sober geopolitical analysis, people mistake it for moral justification or dehumanization. You can’t solve geopolitical issues without acknowledging geopolitics! Of course it was immoral for Russia to attack Ukraine, but shouting that into the void and expecting anything to change does not save Ukrainian or Russian lives.
More “Insist the human rights violations are capitalist/western/CIA propaganda used to fuel a culture war”. Which like yeah, the most effective propaganda is the truth and all that…
There’s an explanation for you to read: https://lemmy.world/post/1084297
Oooo there’s a lot here to read. Reading it now, thank you!
Yeah don’t trust that source
That’s over a year old and you can’t trust it because it’s on .ml, the instance known to remove all dissenting voices be it against .ml itself or China/Russia
