Anything better?
I use Migadu with my own domain
Can you share more info about it? Why did you choose it, any pros or cons? It’s the first time I’ve heard of it.
I like that Migadu gives you a ton of control over your email experience. You can create unlimited users, have unlimited domains, create unlimited aliases, sending identities, they have custom routing features, etc. The backend/management panel seems like it was made with techies in mind. The actual email users don’t have to worry about any of those knobs though.
Migadu
+1 for Migadu. Their basic plan (more than enough for most people) is extremely cheap. No vendor lock in. And their support team is by far, the best I’ve encountered.
disroot and autistici have been providing decentralised communication services (like email) free of cost for many years. They are both run by activists and survive on donations, and they don’t spy on you or get any money from your data. Also they run freedom-respecting software, so all their code is publicly auditable.
I was looking at Tuta after the whole proton CEO thing, but these look really interesting. Thanks
Protonmail
Did you miss when its founder sided with Republicans (the current ones, mind you) or are you ok with it?
Buying your own domain.
You can then use whatever provider, or host your email service… but at least you don’t need to change addresses when switching anymore.Just make sure your domain registrar is renewable from an alternate email in case shit hits the fan you don’t want to be locked out if something interrupts the service and bow your email doesn’t work and you can’t verify who you are… because… your email doesn’t work.
Speaking from experience?
That seems rough.Luckily no, but someone else on Lemmy has had this happen. It sounds like it would be a very bad time haha.
I started doing this, maybe 15 years ago, but if I look through my spam folder now, most of it is to the email address I used before I began using unique addresses (the rest is to random addresses in my domains that I’ve never used).
My hypotheses from that are that
- there is probably less ‘selling of email lists’ going on than we think
- I’m less interested in dubious internet sites than I used to be
- or (most likely) these days, your internet thing has to be offering me some real value if I’m going to consciously give you any of my data.
But then you need to do spam filtering for ages
If your mail server supports aliases, you can make one for each site you sign up for. Then if you start getting a bunch of spam, you can delete the alias and you will know which site sold your information.
What to do with that info tho, damage already done no?
Yes and no… say if you gave the email address lemmyworldthingy@sgarcnlsdomain.com when signin up and you start receiving garbage on it, you just delete the alias and move on.
The trick is that you can have several aliases go into the same inbox so you only have to check one place, but each thing is given its own IP making it easier to identify and filter culprits.I suppose you mean IP in the allegorical sense in terms of ip filtering to email filtering.
Its an interesting thought!
You know not to trust that site with any more information. Once the alias is deleted, anything sent to it will result in a delivery failure and you won’t get any more spam from anyone they sold that address to.
This is the way.
Not all providers let you use your own domain.
Not all providers deserve your business.
MXRoute is what I use as my domain’s email server and it’s good enough. The included browser email clients (it offers multiple) are sort of trash but if you just use your own it’s perfect. It’s pretty cheap too
How can I learn how to set this up?
The basic steps are:
- Register a domain of your choice
- Select who you are setting up your email with (plenty of different providers, Zoho has a basic free plan that would be suitable for a single domain and only a few users at most; Google, outlook etc. also sell services for custom domains)
- Configure the DNS records for your domain to whatever your chosen email provider says (MX records to point to the mail server and some records for DMARC & DKIM to prevent your email being spoofed)
- Test it all works and start using it
I’m not going to write a full tutorial so if it sounds interesting I suggest you do more research. The email hosting is typically focused at businesses as they are most likely to be wanting to host email on a custom domain.
Tuta is pretty good and secure but not as fully featured as other providers. For example, there is no way to bridge your email to the client of your choice last time I checked. Still, their client is pretty good. Guess it depends on your needs.
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I have also been very content with Posteo.
Besides the lack of custom domain support Posteo is cheap and great. Stellar support team.
Zoho
Surprised this isn’t mentioned more because it’s one of the only true alternatives for all the google feature-set.
If what you want is private/secure encrypted email that the provider itself can not even read, I recommend you arcanechat.me
Get a domain and set up a provider with custom domains such as Purelymail
This dude compare quite a lot of email providers in term of privacy. I do not necessarily agree with all its critics but it is a useful resource:
https://digdeeper.neocities.org/articles/email
I would recommend to buy your own domain in case you need to change again. That way, you’re not trapped by your email provider and you can change in case you’re not satisfied anymore
By any means, do you have a Riseup invitation code?
Nope, sorry. Have you tried asking on the privacy space ?
Murena mail, Nextcloud mail, Tuta, Proton, aything is better as GMail, only Hotmail is worse.
So it’s not hot anymore
Never was
aything is better as GMail, only Hotmail is worse
So yahoo mail?
Someone still use that?
I’m using Infomaniak Mail and am fairly happy so far. They are based in Switzerland and I get custom domain + 5 user accounts for 1.50 EUR/month. I’ve tried other providers but coming from Gmail I like that their webmail displays email conversation like Google does whereas most other providers just run rainloop or roundcube where threading support isn’t quite the same.
Their android app is open source too and can be installed from fdroid. It can be a bit sluggish sometimes though, but K9mail/Thunderbird works fine too.
A couple months ago, I would have said Proton. But…
Here we are.
What’s up with Proton?
I never trusted them 100% so I never paid for their services and didn’t really follow up with their privacy and stuff. Just used their free services from time to time.
Wants you in their slow web UIs. Requires a middleman application just to use IMAP—which requires payment. Paid plans are pretty expensive if all you need additionally is CalDAV/CardDAV many will offer for $2 or less a month instead of $5.
…& these are gripes before the right-leaning heel turn.
In bed with fascists
And not subtly like banks were back in WW2. Straight up endorsement.
I was looking at moving to Proton as this all went down. Those plans are on hold.
After reading through it, I am having trouble figuring out how to read his comments because I wonder if there is some different cultural references or simplification going on between the Swis exec and American readers.
It was absolutely a stupid comment and was then the response was handed badly, but I don’t know that I read it as aligning with Fascism.
This is the best writeup I can find: https://archive.ph/2025.01.29-213655/https://medium.com/@ovenplayer/does-proton-really-support-trump-a-deeper-analysis-and-surprising-findings-aed4fee4305e
I switched to Proton about 6 months ago.
Wish I had waited. Ah well.
Domains are cheap, buy one and then you can jump between whatever services aren’t caught up in the outrage of the moment.
I did, but I already paid for two years (plus did a bunch of work to migrate files over). So I’ll be here for a bit.
I’m in exactly the same boat. Swapped both my Dropbox and emails over to Proton about 6 months ago and paid for 2 years, sigh
Sorry for the question but I’m a little lost here. What happened with Proton?
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Supporting Republicans (probably because they’re porn bans drive VPN purchases), adding AI features and a crypto wallet while their drive still lacks basic features, and some other smaller stiff like their shitty article about Deepseak.
Ding ding! After the Proton fiasco, I got a domain and have started moving my accounts to that email, which connects to Tuta
How about Tuta mail with a custom domain? They have unlimited custom domain addresses which is pretty nice
