• deft@lemmy.wtf
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    6 days ago

    Step 1: don’t vote

    Step 2: ???

    Step 3: ???

    Step 4: ??? (But please don’t vote! 🥺)

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      6 days ago

      Vote or don’t. But don’t kid yourself it changes anything but aesthetics, and don’t disappear back to the brunch spot when your preferred Neoliberal ghouls win an election.

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        5 days ago

        This is how I know you’re not American.

        If you think Biden vs Trump was solely aesthetics you’re absolutely clueless. You are brain rotted from media.

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          5 days ago

          I live in Seattle. Let me know next time you’re in town and we can meet up for a coffee.

          If you think Biden vs Trump changed anything but the number of mean tweets deemed newsworthy, then you’re the one brainrotted by billionaire owned media. Remember those kids in cages from the first Trump administration? (Actually from the Obama Administration, but let’s not challenge your memory too hard) At what point in Biden’s Presidency were those cages empty of children?

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            5 days ago

            Oh we were at war with Iran?

            ICE’s budget was always 85 billion?

            There were no climate directives Trump rolled back?

            Our allies were always alienated?

            Tariffs always existed? Corporate tax was always 21%?

            Federal abortion protections never existed?

            Our federal government was always understaffed?

            National guard was always patrolling DC? The white house always looked that way? The reflecting pool was always like that?

            Almost 1 million people didn’t exist? Never died to COVID stemming directly from government mishandling of information and general confusion?

            Did people always storm the capitol or did that never happen?

            Hmm seems like a lot of fucking difference to me.

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              5 days ago

              seems like a lot of fucking difference to me.

              I’m sure it does, since you’ve made it clear you’ll never critically question the narratives fed to you by billionaires and their employees. When someone will happily slurp up any bullshit you sell them it’s easy to sell aesthetics as meaningful differences.

              war with Iran?

              AIPAC didn’t want war with Iran badly enough to force the issue in 2021. But it was coming this election cycle regardless of who won the popularity contest

              Kamala Harris says Iran is ‘greatest adversary’ of US | Kamala Harris News | Al Jazeera https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/10/8/kamala-harris-says-iran-is-greatest-adversary-of-us

              ICE’s budget was always 85 billion?

              No, Trump and his cronies are fucking incompetent and corrupt. Biden got way more deporting brown people done for a much lower price. But the Dems are not exactly friends of immigrants these days

              Harris Gained Nothing by Running to Trump’s Right on Immigration https://theintercept.com/2024/11/07/harris-trump-election-immigration-border/

              I could go on, but the fact that you included these without addressing my point about Biden keeping just as many kids in cages for just as long as Trump did tells me you’re not going to read any of the linked sources, you’re just going to come back with more nonsense and maybe an ad hominem dismissal. So I’ll save myself the trouble of finding any more articles Google is trying to memory-hole, and save you the trouble of ignoring them.

              You can actually meaningfully address the points actually being made, and I’ll continue to bring more sources, or you can reply with nonsense and I can switch to just trolling an insults. Let’s see which one happens next…

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                5 days ago

                Lmfao you’re just wrong bro what are you talking about?

                First you can’t see the future I don’t care what you think you know. There’s no reason to think the US would’ve engaged in a war with Iran under Harris. Because she called them an adversary?

                I think you just don’t live here and don’t understand anything about this country or how it functions. Yes Iran is an adversary. They do not have US interest at heart, why the fuck would they?

                Second, comparing Biden or Obama’s deportation processes and goals to Trump is so fucking goofy and transparent of you. No they’re not the same. Yes it is technically illegal to immigrate here without due process, it’s fucking like that everywhere. The US has massive immigration for a ton of reasons, some self inflicted. I personally support people immigrating here legally or not. But to act like MY personal beliefs should be what the entire government does is fucking silly as fuck. The treatment of immigrants and the evolution of ICE is completely entirely and unequivocally just fucking so stupid it gives anyone reading this grounds to revoke that last lentil you call a brain cell.

                What you want is to drag an argument out and fill it with bullshit which is why nobody is engaging you cause it’s fucking crap. It takes 50 times more effort to disprove something than assert it.

                Your talking points are clearly from the Internet. You do not have a single notion of US culture. Your idea of what and how the US should operate is both ignorant and childish.

                There’s wants and then there is reality. You aren’t having a realistic discussion you’re pissing your pants over what you think as someone who isn’t even part of this country. Goofball.

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                  There’s no reason to think the US would’ve engaged in a war with Iran under Harris

                  The only reason to think she wouldn’t have is wishful thinking. Harris is an AIPAC puppet like most elected politicians in the US. She was singing from the same hymnal they all were, and they’ve all supported the war. She enthusiastically helped the Biden administration end-run around Congress to fund the Zionist genocide, she’d absolutely have bombed Iran when given the order to do so.

                  think you just don’t live here

                  And we’re back to “people who disagree are dirty foreigners or subhuman bots”. It’s a super convenient belief that keeps you from ever having to engage with arguments your billionaire programmers haven’t given you the talking points and thought terminating cliches to protect yourself from.

                  comparing Biden or Obama’s deportation processes and goals to Trump is so fucking goofy and transparent of you

                  Pretending Tom Homan wasn’t running the show for both parties is ignorant or disingenuous of you. And you don’t need five more sentences of prevarication after that, you can just say you’re fine with the bipartisan white supremacist status quo on immigration. That “I personally like immigrants but the government is mean, tee hee” bullshit isn’t fooling anyone.

                  And since the rest of your screed goes back to the illiterate and fascist-leaning standpoint that evidence isn’t required for narratives that are popular enough and anyone who questions them is clearly an evil foreigner, it’s not even worth addressing. I picture you as a child with your fingers in your ears screeching “I’m not listening to the bad think, I’m not listening to the bad think!!”