“Tankie” is a caricature. The idea of a tankie is the ideal vision of a McCarthyian Communist. In reality, the overwhelming majority of people labeled as such don’t actually fit that label, it’s more of a way to cast an image of someone’s positions based on, say, support for AES countries, and twist that into the evil Commie Pinko that haunts the dreams of 1960s children in the US.
So, yes, it’s a pejorative, and not one I think is aiding leftists trying to understand the views of others. More often than not it’s used as “commie” was: to shut down conversation and otherize people.
It isn’t “JAQ,” I asked a specific pair of questions because vague gesturing isn’t effective communication. For your edit, removing control from the Bourgeoisie, defending revolution, and having the Dictatorship of the Proletariat control the press is straight from Marx, so I guess you mean Marxism is “tankie ideology.” I don’t know what you mean by dictatorships, nor ethnic cleansing, this just seems to be more vague assertions.
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i think its more of a general term, specifically with the focus on large government oversight.
Absolutely wrong. A tankie is a fake leftist who idolizes authoritarian regimes / leaders
So, it’s a perjorative then.
Sure like calling a Nazi a Nazi is technically pejorative. More importantly, it’s a warning identifier to others.
A Nazi is a real thing, there was a Nazi party that ruled a country, and there are still people nowadays who adhere to the ideals of that party.
There was never a “Tankie” party, it’s something that only exists in your head and has no representation in the real world.
It doesn’t have to be a defined party to be an ideology. It’s pretty hilarious y’all are defending authoritarian Stans
So Zante was right.
It’s clearly an ideology as well, which is what I was addressing. (Ideology/idolize)
Well no, it’s clearly not. Like you said, it’s a perjorative.
Two things can be true. By my word choice it is clear that “absolutely not” was directed at “ideology”.
Edit How is it not? People believe in the actions of authoritarians larping as leftists. They further idolize their personalities.
That’s not an ideology though, that’s just you saying “they like people who I think are bad.” That’s like calling “woke” an ideology.
“Tankie” is a caricature. The idea of a tankie is the ideal vision of a McCarthyian Communist. In reality, the overwhelming majority of people labeled as such don’t actually fit that label, it’s more of a way to cast an image of someone’s positions based on, say, support for AES countries, and twist that into the evil Commie Pinko that haunts the dreams of 1960s children in the US.
So, yes, it’s a pejorative, and not one I think is aiding leftists trying to understand the views of others. More often than not it’s used as “commie” was: to shut down conversation and otherize people.
If someone supports authoritarians masquerading as leftists they subscribe to tankie ideology. Sucks for them that it’s a pejorative TOO.
If people don’t like being called it maybe they shouldn’t openly support such behavior.
What makes someone a Leftist, vs an “authoritarian masquerading as a leftist?” What is “tankie ideology?”
JAQ elsewhere. Ample resources to look up.
My late edit had some keywords to can type in if you’re unfamiliar.
It isn’t “JAQ,” I asked a specific pair of questions because vague gesturing isn’t effective communication. For your edit, removing control from the Bourgeoisie, defending revolution, and having the Dictatorship of the Proletariat control the press is straight from Marx, so I guess you mean Marxism is “tankie ideology.” I don’t know what you mean by dictatorships, nor ethnic cleansing, this just seems to be more vague assertions.
“tankies” don’t like anyone on the left of them
What’s to the left of “everybody to the left of Elizabeth Warren”?
We just need to add a “person with” on the parenthesis and it will be understandable enough