• CaptDust@sh.itjust.works
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        If that’s how you interpret my comment that’s on you. I feel Talarico will do more for marginalized communities than anyone TX had on the ballot in 50+ years.

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            You’ve misinterpreted 2/2 of their comments and misinterpreted Talarico’s beliefs about trans people.

            Editing your comment to add twice the content as well as chants we both agree with in massive font does absolutely nothing to contribute to this discussion and distracts from what you said.

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              He won the primary by being an unapologetic ally, and then decided it was a losing strategy.

              It’s the same shit CEOs and bad management throw QA, IT, low level programmers, nurses, teachers, or any other frontline workers under the fucking bus. I see right through it, and object to it.

              Trans Rights Are Worker’s Rights

              Trans Rights Are Indigenous Rights

              Trans Rights Are Minority’s Rights

              Trans Rights Are Women’s Rights

              Trans Rights Are Human Rights

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                Most Democrats in contested areas are actively disconnecting from engaging in Culture War talking points.

                One can quietly support and vote for trans rights while not openly engaging in arguments about trans people which scare off moderates/fence-sitters/“I’d vote for that Democrat because Trump is terrible, but I’m afraid of trans people” types.


                FYI to the user who replied to me below, I blocked you a while back when you were doing a bunch of bad faith arguments. I can’t recall if you were one of the people straw-manning western liberals or one of the ones that tagged in to start the name-calling sideshow.

                • OBJECTION!@lemmy.ml
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                  If the best defense you can make about a person is that they’re lying to the voters, then how can we know if their real stance is actually better and not worse? How do you know that you’re not the one being deceived as opposed to the “moderates” and “fence sitters?”

                • NonconfrontationaI@lemmy.mlBanned from community
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                  I dunno about you, but anybody trying to take my human rights away is my enemy. You must not be afraid of losing yours, I wonder why that might be?

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          Am I not allowed to be disappointed in a candidate? Is the only option unrestrained enthusiasm for a candidate that isn’t interested in protecting my rights?

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            You can be what ever you want, but trump might not be in office right now if the same thing wasn’t going on with people condemning Harris for not being anti Israel, loudly, when there were only two options left.

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              Or maybe Harris shouldn’t have taken unpopular stances on easy-to-win topics. She had the easiest election that I’ve ever seen, and gave it up.

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              You’re condoning shutting the fuck up and just voting?

              You don’t see a problem with that strategy?

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                When you are down to two choices, yes, you vote for the lesser of two evils. Otherwise you get trump and Paxton.

                I donated to Crockett and I don’t live in Texas. But at the 11th hour, rallying against Talarico is campaigning for Paxton.

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                  No. Not demanding better from your politicians is what got you trump and Paxton lol. Telling the voters to shut up and vote instead of holding the Dem leaders accountable and making them cater to your popular demands is a proven losing strategy.

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                    You’re not holding the Dems accountable, you’re stumping for Paxton.

                    This argument would have been helpful before the primaries and will be again after this election. In this moment, it is not helpful for any purpose but getting the greater of two evils elected.

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                In the american system, yes. Do that and pray it works out, since the only other option you have is get one of those bajillion guns and do a revolution thingy.

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                  Far easier to complain that the situation isn’t perfect on the internet than either of those, hence their and others’ constant droning on about it.

                  As a bonus, it’s exactly what someone trying to ruin our democracy would say. Funny that there’s no shortage of those on the internet, a place where it’s much harder to tell that you’re a Russian bot.


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                  As the votes come in to indicate most people are misinterpreting this comment, it’s now more of a writer issue than a reader issue. I’ll clarify:

                  The constant droning I was referring to above is the voter apathy encouraging “Democrats suck too, therefore I’m not voting for them either,” not the valid complaints that Democrats aren’t doing enough for trans people.

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                    Trans people are not Russian bots because we care about our rights being stripped or being insulted to our faces by our representatives.

                    It’s gone from restrooms and sports to denying federal funding for our healthcare. Each one of these concessions to anti-trans Dems has only seen escalation in their attacks on us.

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                As far as electoral progress goes? Yes. Tough titties – that’s how our “democracy” works.

                We should be mainly focusing on building power in other ways. Strong unions. Solidarity. Parallel power. Mutual aid. Mutual defense. General strike. Outright revolution. But when it comes to elections – yes, you absolutely should keep voting for the marginally less fascist party.

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                  You were okay with the genocide, and now you’re okay with taking minority rights away.

                  You didn’t even have to get scratched, lol.

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                    Yeah, when arguing for Harris in spite of her serious flaws, it was because our system is broken. Same with Talarico; the only non-overthrowy options right are the fascist and the less fascist in a position of power. You can critique candidates yes, but arguing vehemently against them in this way, giving no room for disagreement on stances, it undermines the effort to do better.

                    Not voting for Harris out of moral purity, or because someone was making these kinds of arguments and swayed a reader, is something I believe helped get Trump the presidency, and that’s been such a devastatingly destructive outcome for everyone. Discouraging voting for Talarico helps Paxton win, something you should do everything to prevent if your beliefs are what you say they are.

                    I’m also a trans person btw <3

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                    You were okay with the genocide

                    Bull fucking shit. Voting for a candidate doesn’t mean you support everything they do or everything they stand for. It just means you recognize them as the least harmful option.

                    You didn’t even have to get scratched, lol.

                    The fuck does this even mean? What’s ‘scratched’ mean?

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                  Human rights are non-negotiable. If we’re always voting against fascists, then the political system is run by fascists and needs to burn.

                  I’m glad you brought up parallel power, because I’m actually doing that; I’m a union organizer with a track record. Are you actually doing that too, or are you trying to grandstand?

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                    I’m more on the mutual aid side of things currently. But I also voted for the marginally less fascist party. And so should you.

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                No only our rights, they won’t be affected so they’re fine with it.