I couldn’t believe my eyes seeing this advice to teach young boys to hit girls so as to restore the boys’ self esteem and pride.
This is the kind of toxic belief that shouldn’t be allowed to proliferate here and yet is embraced with open arms by other users.
That boys can only regain their pride and self esteem by hitting girls leads directly to more violence against women and girls.
You know what’s for losers? Trying to justify unnecessary violence. And among kindergartners, no less. You sound like someone who never left preschool emotionally.
Right, the violent ones are always the ones defending themselves, not the ones who attack them, aelf defense is never necessary or justified, it simply doesn’t exist. Ask Israel.
Perhaps look inward and consider why “self defense” means retaliation to you.
Difficulty: not bringing anyone else’s behavior into the equation
Perhaps you look inward and consider why you think DEFENSE means violence.
You charactized hitting back as self defense, not me.
Also good job on the “not bringing anyone else’s behavior into it” part. Well done. Masterful.
I characterised self defense as self defense. The person in the quote thinks taking karate lessons involves punching back and it’ll boost the kid’s ego, I’m pointing out that’s not real and what martial arts lessons really are. Self defense and martial arts lessons will teach the opposite. Don’t teach kids self defense means hitting back.
Don’t change your tune now. We can see your other comments clearly supporting teaching children to hit back. You even compared these 5 year olds to Palestinians fighting back against Israel.
I said “hitting back means getting hit first”, and then I talked about defending yourself when you talked about unnecessary violence. You quote the part calling for both self defense and hitting back and you’re focusing on the hitting back part calling it unnecessary violence. You are ignoring half the sentence you quoted, I’m pointing out the part you tossed away. I’m sure you can see my other comment explaining what the karate classes will do in opposition to what the person quoted thinks, I’m not changing anything.
You’re departing from the thing we’re actually talking about to try and justify your point of view, and we’re not letting you drag it off that way. The person who is pictured in the OP is not encouraging someone to take karate lessons and learn peaceful means of self defense or self discipline. They are suggesting a kindergartner be taught to hit back. That is the thing that was said and that is what we’re discussing. Deal with that or just stop replying.
Teaching 5 year old children to hit back is teaching them unnecessary violence.
And you clearly missed the other conversations around this topic. The problem isn’t karate. It’s asserting that this little boy can gain his pride and self-esteem back by hitting this little girl.
You just compared 5 year olds to Israel. Go the fuck outside and touch grass.
Don’t tell kids that self-defense is violence.
Encouraging 5 year olds to hit back is terrible. Encouraging children to solve their problems with violence is bad. Encouraging comparing a 5 year to the plight of Palestinians to win an internet slap fight is horrible.
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You used a genocide to win points in an internet slap fight.
Sit with that.
You really love to take everything to illogical extremes and zoom into tiny, irrelevant details to make extreme arguments. I’d say you’re no better than who you’re arguing against
Comparing 5 year olds to Israel/Palestine is way more than anything I’ve done lol