This cartoon from The Seattle Times illustrates how America’s economic pizza is actually sliced per capita, highlighting the massive disparity between the Top 1%, the merely wealthy, the upper middle class, and the lower 50%.

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    28 days ago

    Where do the ingredients come from? Are you growing your own grain and milling it into your own flower? Do you have your own cows or goats to make your own cheese? Did you build your own oven? Fired with wood you cut down yourself?

    Not buying the very last link in the chain doesn’t matter. It only makes you feel like you’re doing something.

    You’d be more effective buying the pizza from a locally owned place.

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      28 days ago

      When making something nice I would buy the ingredients from local independents where I can. I can almost see the farm I get cheese and garlic from on a clear day but there is a hill in the way.

      Its also risky though, they sell fucking massive slabs of halloumi style cheese. Its a lot of money but also a lot of cheese.

      Can’t do it for every ingredient with every recipe, but I am fed up of the just give up attitude I often hear simply because something isn’t 100% perfect in every way and using that as a reason to not even try. So I do what I reasonably can.

      Also, ingredients are cheaper than a fast food place. Better quality too.

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        27 days ago

        Like I said, it makes you feel better, that’s fine.
        But don’t pretend it’s fighting the fight. Though if you don’t pretend, it may not make you feel better.

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          27 days ago

          Other than refusing to consume, what do you suggest doing that will achieve more and is easy for most people to do?

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            27 days ago

            Organizing, protesting, voting and voter registration drives, marketing and coms. Even starting a union owned business, or something similar. Those kinds of things make a difference. Individual purchasing decisions don’t.

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              27 days ago

              Even starting a union owned business

              Hey everyone. You want to change society? Just start a business. Easy peesy! Don’t make small changes in your life, make massive financial overhauls.

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                27 days ago

                That was just one, of a few suggestions.
                Obviously not everyone can start a business. Who will work at your business every everyone else started their own?

                But yah, if you want to make big changes fast, you need to make big moves.

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              27 days ago

              Many of those are much more difficult for most people to do, are of questionable benefit or they already do.

              Refuse to give them money, it is the only language they understand.

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                27 days ago

                If you play the “vote with your wallet” game, the biggest wallet wins.
                Who’s wallet is bigger?

                Also, no battle worth fighting has ever been easy. You should let go of that idea.

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                  27 days ago

                  If I vote with my wallet and stop buying pizza. And I get my friends to do the same. And they get their friends to do the same. Then I don’t think it really matters the size of the wallet. Are billos suddenly going to start buying up all the pizza to make up for it? I doubt it.

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                    27 days ago

                    Now you’re organizing, like I suggested. But as you said that’s very difficult. And that’s even the more difficult goal to organise around.

                    Part of the fossil fuel play book in the 80’s and 90’s, was the idea of the "Individual Carbon Footprint’. They created that idea, specifically to shift the burden of climate change from them, to the consumer. They did so because they new the collective action need to make change that way, was far more difficult than pushing lawmakers to change the laws.

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      28 days ago

      Not buying the very last link in the chain doesn’t matter.

      It absolutely does. You’re cutting out the part with highest markup. Skipping an entire manufacturing process.

      You can get the ingredients for a fraction of the cost compared to a finished product.

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        27 days ago

        Maybe. But price wasn’t the argument being made. That’s a non sequitur.