• seven_phone@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    Review is essentially reading papers in your field which is your interest and the way you choose to spend your time.

    • OhNoMoreLemmy@lemmy.ml
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      3 days ago

      Reviewing is on average about reading bad papers that won’t get accepted in great detail to try to figure out what’s actually going on.

      At best, it tends to be reading solid work adjacent to your subfield which you can respect but aren’t really that into.

      It’s pretty rare for it to be as useful to me as actually choosing something to read.

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      3 days ago

      That’s like saying you shouldn’t be paid if you like your job because enjoying work is rewarding enough

    • Fushuan [he/him]@lemm.ee
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      It’s still free labor since besides reading the review papers, scientists are expected to read the relevant daily papers of their field. Try usually do it in their free time and expending some of it reading non curated papers and then writing a review takes out preious time.

      Elsevier doesn’t even reward them with free subscriptions to their services, no, they work for free and then have to pay (uni pays for them) to read what they curated.

      The only thing Elsevier has for it is the notoriety of their platform.

      If arXiv had a way to curate the uploaded papers and voluntary reviews from researchers, Elsevier would be gone.

      There’s a reason why researchers themselves publish their papers into the “pirate” hub since they aren’t allowed to publish it publicly legalyl (but are allowed to privately send you the paper if you contact them by email for example).

      • Thwompthwomp@lemmy.world
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        For professors it’s somewhat included but in the pay structure and an expected part of service. So you could argue that it’s not necessarily “free” time, but it’s not a great argument. Reviewers should still be paid and not expected to do this for free.

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          3 days ago

          Having someone review things because it’s “expected” is a great way to get people rubber stamping stuff.

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            3 days ago

            Ooh, and add in ever increasing journals and submissions, and you are correct!

            (Or pass them along to grad students who take it extremely seriously)

            The entire peer review system is somewhat of a mess since publish or perish and citation indexes have been embedded into promotion and tenure as metrics.

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          2 days ago

          This article blew my mind when I first read it. The unsustainability of the current academic publishing situation made a lot more sense after learning how we got to this point. Strongly recommended this article to anyone who doesn’t know how huge Maxwell’s influence was in this area.