Couple of things I think defenders of this need to recognize. First being, 4 years doesn’t seem like a lot but within the first 20 years for your life it definitely is. If you are 15, 4 years age difference is 1/4th of your entire existence on this planet and the amount of mental and physical development that will happen in the next 4 years is drastic. Now if you are 24 and she/he is 20? Or 24 and 28? Etc? Not a very big deal because by 20 or so you have quite a bit more understanding of the world and yourself and 4 years is less and less of a fraction of your experience on earth. But 15? Nah. The younger you are the more drastic a few years difference is to your development and personal experience. Idk if I’d call a kiss like this, at this age range, should be considered definitive pedophilia, but I definitely don’t think it’s ok. Especially because that boy’s 200% hormones and his brain is basically lizard mode. He’s not thinking about anything but sex and definitely not capable of rational thought.
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I also want to clarify I really don’t think any comments on this post (Lemmygrad) are actively defending the act. One person seems to be debating if it’s an act of pedophilia or not. I’m not getting into that debate.
I also want to point out…I mean,this is from reddit. Are we surprised?I’m legitimately appalled. This is exactly what I’m trying to say, even few years can make a difference at that age, plus consent. No one would care if both are is 20+.
I can definitely confirm that everyone would be instantly jumping if the adult was male since female pedos frequently get a pass for some reason.
This is the 2nd time I’ve seen someone defending pedophilia on this site, which isn’t a lot compared to other sites.
But still, I expect better.
There was a recent case with user called Rondomi or something like that, and this one:
I’m surprised it happened again so soon.
What gets me is all the rehashed “it’s ebephepephila!” or smsht that some users are trying to pull.
Like regardless, he’s a minor how tf is that remotely defensible?
It’s fucked and I was apparently wrong to think that that stuff only happens on Reddit.
I dunno if r slash askfeminsts is exactly a bastion of modern feminist thought.
That’s why I wrote it with ‘’ ‘’
Calling that pedophilic undermines what pedophilia actually is. You can argue that it’s wrong, sure, but a 19 year old and a 15 year old kissing does not meet any psychological criterion to be qualified as pedophilia. The concept of it being wrong would be controversial and culturally relative but even if we accept this as wrong, that still directly undermines actual pedophilia by misusing the word to describe situations like this. Pedophilia implies that the victim is prepubescent, in this situation, this is not the case.
Of course it’s fucking wrong, and wanting to be technical every time whether it’s pedophilia or how do they call it ‘‘ephebophilia’’ is the equivalent of leading a prolonged discussion whether it was first or second degree murder after someone innocent was killed.
Even some of the worst mfs in prison hate pedophiles, it’s universal.
the equivalent of leading a prolonged discussion whether it was first or second degree murder after someone innocent was killed
I mean, that’s a huge difference, and is usually a major factor in how homicide cases are resolved. There are prolonged discussions about exactly this sort of thing in every city all the time.
It’s like how there are war crimes that don’t amount to genocide, or thefts of a small enough amount that they don’t rise to the felony level. “Exactly how bad is this bad thing” is a totally legitimate discussion.
But it’s still a murder with intent and knowing that actions will result in a murder, both are murder. You won’t be seeing prolonged discussions on whether or not it was a murder.
War crime is war crime, whether it’s gassing in trenches or executing POWs.
Pedophilia is pedophilia, it can or not involve rape and the severity varies, but it’s still pedophilia and should be judged as such.
No, this is more like arguing if it’s murder or running a stop sign, it’s simply ridiculous to put them in the same realm. The idea that someone consuming CSAM or committing sexual assault is the same as two teenagers who are only 4 years apart in age kissing is ridiculous. Even your concept that it is wrong ignores the idea of cultural and time period differences in seeing what was wrong and what wasn’t. It’s very chauvinistic while simultaneously downplaying actual pedophilia.
Pedophilia when rape is involved is same with murder, that’s what I meant. But this is still pedophilia as one is a minor, there’s just no rape. If my parents saw a grown ass woman(or man) kissing a child on THE MOUTH, you bet your ass they wouldn’t care about terms.
Just because your parents are crazy doesn’t mean the rest of the world is. They are really quite close in age and you can clearly see that it’s consensual. To act like this is the same as pedophilia when it’s people so close in age is truly and utterly ridiculous. That whole statement reeks of chronically-onlineism. The DSM-5 requires there to be a 5-year age gap to be qualified as pedophilic and cultural and social norms would also indicate that this is perfectly fine and certainly not pedophilia even if it is wrong.
Just because your parents are crazy
Til that hating pedophiles and protecting children from them is called ‘‘crazy’’ nowadays. They would absolutely not stand for any pedophilia and would act accordingly if seeing suspected one or something like that happening(pedo as in person above 18 touching or kissing children inappropriately in any way, let alone anything more), same thing stands with my older sister. It doesn’t matter how close it is, it isn’t 17-18, it’s 4 year age gap, not to mention teen children developing at different pace to the point that even 2 year can be problematic.
If anyone tried do do this to me when I was 15(or today for that matter), prison would be the least of their worries.
Even the worst mfs in prison hate pedos.
You aren’t “protecting kids” by clutching your pearls about two teenagers kissing. You are actively downplaying actual pedophilia by comparing it to this. You are only proving my point about your parents supposed opinion on this being irrelevant if they would physically harm someone for consensually kissing someone else close in age. Go talk to someone in real life and you will see how crazy this take is.
I did that’s the point, and everyone’s either agreeing with me or being even more extreme. I’m not downplaying, of course it’s not the same as actual rape, but pedophilia is pedophilia and should be stopped in any shape and paid attention to before the worst thing happens. It’s not ‘‘two teenagers’’, it’s a grown adult and a minor.
And yes, I could 100% guarantee you that if anyone did this to me when I was 15, that the prison would be the absolute least of their worries, same thing stands with other family members.
