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    Fedpol will ban people connected to political causes and organizations it deems unacceptable.

    Yes, that’s the point. That’s the thing we’re calling out.

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      But isn’t it understandable that Switzerland does not want foreign political organisations to interfere with the political landscape in Switzerland?

      As told above already, I just hope (and fear that is not) that similar extremists supporting attacks from Isreal, are banned from entering our country as well.

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        But isn’t it understandable that Switzerland does not want foreign political organisations to interfere with the political landscape in Switzerland?

        Is Switzerland banning everyone who’s expressed support for a foreign political organization? No? Ok then, guess that’s not what this is about.

        As told above already, I just hope (and fear that is not) that similar extremists supporting attacks from Isreal, are banned from entering our country as well.

        They aren’t and won’t be though. You know that, and you know why. They also won’t be banning people supporting attacks by the USA, or Ukraine, or any NATO power. Because that’s not what it’s about.

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          Supporter and Extremist is not the same.

          I don’t know this person not well enough to decide where to place him, but seeing his post on X, I strongly assume, that he advocated violence.

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            Supporter and Extremist is not the same.

            Given that merely supporting Hamas apparently makes you an extremist, they sure seem to be.

            I strongly assume, that he advocated violence

            So anyone who supports the military is an extremist?

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              Yea, Supporting Hamas does, if you actually try convincing other people to do the same, since Switzerland officially sees Hamas as Terror organisation. Fedpol has only acted based on that, but not decided it.

              Just supporting Palestine does not make you extremist

              Yea, anyone who supports military to invade other countries is in my eyes an extremist. But I have to investigate how the definition of extremist is officially in swiss government.

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                Yea, Supporting Hamas does, if you actually try convincing other people to do the same, since Switzerland officially sees Hamas as Terror organisation. Fedpol has only acted based on that, but not decided it.

                The idea that the government can unilaterally and arbitrarily declare that it’s illegal to support a resistance group is the most anti-free speech thing I can possibly imagine. This is seriously the most extremist view possible. You would have supported criminalizing support for Nelson Mandela.

                Just supporting Palestine does not make you extremist

                Apparently it would if the government told you it did.

                Yea, anyone who supports military to invade other countries is in my eyes an extremist.

                Not in the eyes of Fedpol though, quite the opposite: they claim supporting people opposing invasion is extremism. You also would have supported criminalizing support for the allies invading the Nazis. Again, that’s not a question, that’s what you believe.

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                  Joining an organisation is not speech, it is more. Talking that you think they have a right to attack Israel, that you think they should kill all xxx, they believe the government is lying to you, etc. that is free speech and is allowed.

                  Apparently it would if the government told you it did.

                  Sorry did not get what you trying to say here

                  Fedpol is not opinionated, they have a list of terror groups that are not written by frdpol and they have the order to not let anyone in trying to find more people joining that terror group

                  Please finally learn that our government is not homogenous and not a dictatorship. We have many devisions that do different stuff and oh boy they are never in consensus, there are people of any opinion in the swiss government. It is not a single entity like Trump, Putin, Xi, etc. Who have or think they have absolute power.