Really? So no popular supporter of Israels genocide has ever been to Switzerland? No supporter of the Iraq War? No popular person who has celebrated murder or destruction by a western power has ever been to Switzerland?
I’m going to let you in on a secret: Switzerland? It’s actually in Europe.
And by “doesn’t always make the right decision” you mean it makes its decision based on whether or not it agrees with the particular instance of murder and destruction being celebrated.
Yes, I gathered you agree with banning free speech you disagree with.
I need more evidence than a single entity that was bot let in and is in my opinion ok to not let in to conclude that we have a systemic problem in fedPol
I hope there are some good quality investigation reports about that
Supporter and extremist is not the same
My personal opinion is, that every country has “bad” and “good” people and I have no desire to have extremists in my country
If fedPol really does such a bad job preventing Israel supporting extremism from entering Switzerland, we indeed have to change that.
I support free speech and I am thankful for al the crical thinking in this comment thread. We don’t solve problems by ignoring each other.
With that definition, I would be an extremist as well, lol
Not gonna leave a country where we have a working mechanism to make changes in the constitution based on the will of it’s people
If that is the case, I will donate to organisations who make a proper investigation about it and use its results to issue an initiative changing that. I do that via the party that I am a member of (swiss pirate party)
😆how do you get to that conclusion, I am all in for free speech, as long as it don’t celebrate violence
With that definition, I would be an extremist as well, lol
Yes, correct. Sounds like you’re finally starting to understand my point.
Not gonna leave a country where we have a working mechanism to make changes in the constitution based on the will of it’s people
Oh sorry, I thought you said you don’t want extremists in your country.
I am all in for free speech, as long as it don’t celebrate violence
So you are, in fact, not for free speech. Given you apparently don’t think people should be allowed to openly celebrate things like the defeat of the Nazis
Though I notice you yourself support the violent act of expelling a person from a part of our shared planet.
*extremist because I do support Palestine, and have the opinion that the Israel government has fucked up hard / is to be considered a terror organisation as well.
I do not see myself as extremist
I support celebrating defence but I do not support invasion
And attack a neighbour directly with 1000x power as answer of an event is not only defending
To nuance my sentence above
I am ok with “i think we need violence to achieve this” etc as opinion
But “these dogs need all to be hanged and killed like they were no humans” is not ok.
*extremist because I do support Palestine, and have the opinion that the Israel government has fucked up hard / is to be considered a terror organisation as well.
You’re so close.
I do not see myself as extremist
And I don’t see Hamas supporters as extremist. I do see you as extremist though.
I support celebrating defence but I do not support invasion
Hamas has never invaded anyone.
And attack a neighbour directly with 1000x power as answer of an event is not only defending
Ok, and you would have also condemned the allies for invading the Nazis. That’s not a question by the way, that’s just what you believe.
But “these dogs need all to be hanged and killed like they were no humans” is not ok.
Actually it is, and I consider you an extremist to believe you can claim otherwise.
I am an extremist because I am not shouting “kill all Israel people?” Or is because I don’t say “kill all Judes” or what exactly makes me an extremist?!
I never told that Hamas invaded anyone, I just told that I don’t approve the ways they handle stuff. And that swiss government has but Hamas on the list of terrorist groups.
This means that fedPol has no choice but to not let Hamas supporters in, if they get wind of it.
Well, if a country gets invaded and freed after, that is not an invasion. At least if the invasion did happen in the last decade. I don’t support keeping old conflicts alive. Else everybody could invade anybody since any country invaded at least once since the concept of countries.
But yea, in my opinion, the takeover of germany by the end of WW2, where de big border through Berlin was build, was an invasion and I don’t approve that invasion (you still see the scars from that invasion)
And hear you the difference between you and me. I would never wish anyone to have to die if they don’t want to. Not even the worst child raping serial killer. I would prefer to analyse this person’s psychology and find reasons that has led to that outcome and do anything to prevent others people from getting on the same path.
As I heard from the 7. October, where the party was slain by Hamas (I say Hamas not Palestine on purpose here) it hit me hard, as I myself am a Person enjoying exactly this style of music. But never did I wish death to the shooters there. I would prefer to talk and find a way how we can forgive each other.
But if this wish makes me an extremist in your eyes, I really don’t know what is wrong with you…
Only popular people get onto the radar of Fedpol.
And Switzerland has swiss citizens, there are not only European people in Switzerland.
And yea, I agree, that Fedpol does not always do the right decision, meaning false positives and false negatives.
But with this guy, I agree with fedpol, at least with that little information I have, hope this X posts are really from him and mot a smear campaign.
Really? So no popular supporter of Israels genocide has ever been to Switzerland? No supporter of the Iraq War? No popular person who has celebrated murder or destruction by a western power has ever been to Switzerland?
I’m going to let you in on a secret: Switzerland? It’s actually in Europe.
And by “doesn’t always make the right decision” you mean it makes its decision based on whether or not it agrees with the particular instance of murder and destruction being celebrated.
Yes, I gathered you agree with banning free speech you disagree with.
I need more evidence than a single entity that was bot let in and is in my opinion ok to not let in to conclude that we have a systemic problem in fedPol
I hope there are some good quality investigation reports about that
Supporter and extremist is not the same
My personal opinion is, that every country has “bad” and “good” people and I have no desire to have extremists in my country
If fedPol really does such a bad job preventing Israel supporting extremism from entering Switzerland, we indeed have to change that.
I support free speech and I am thankful for al the crical thinking in this comment thread. We don’t solve problems by ignoring each other.
Yes, actually, it is.
Great, when are you going to be leaving?
You’re not going to though. You will continue to persecute opposition to it though.
No. You don’t. You support speech that is not too far from what you believe, but nothing too different.
With that definition, I would be an extremist as well, lol
Not gonna leave a country where we have a working mechanism to make changes in the constitution based on the will of it’s people
If that is the case, I will donate to organisations who make a proper investigation about it and use its results to issue an initiative changing that. I do that via the party that I am a member of (swiss pirate party)
😆how do you get to that conclusion, I am all in for free speech, as long as it don’t celebrate violence
Yes, correct. Sounds like you’re finally starting to understand my point.
Oh sorry, I thought you said you don’t want extremists in your country.
So you are, in fact, not for free speech. Given you apparently don’t think people should be allowed to openly celebrate things like the defeat of the Nazis
Though I notice you yourself support the violent act of expelling a person from a part of our shared planet.
*extremist because I do support Palestine, and have the opinion that the Israel government has fucked up hard / is to be considered a terror organisation as well.
I do not see myself as extremist
I support celebrating defence but I do not support invasion
And attack a neighbour directly with 1000x power as answer of an event is not only defending
To nuance my sentence above
I am ok with “i think we need violence to achieve this” etc as opinion
But “these dogs need all to be hanged and killed like they were no humans” is not ok.
You’re so close.
And I don’t see Hamas supporters as extremist. I do see you as extremist though.
Hamas has never invaded anyone.
Ok, and you would have also condemned the allies for invading the Nazis. That’s not a question by the way, that’s just what you believe.
Actually it is, and I consider you an extremist to believe you can claim otherwise.
I am an extremist because I am not shouting “kill all Israel people?” Or is because I don’t say “kill all Judes” or what exactly makes me an extremist?!
I never told that Hamas invaded anyone, I just told that I don’t approve the ways they handle stuff. And that swiss government has but Hamas on the list of terrorist groups.
This means that fedPol has no choice but to not let Hamas supporters in, if they get wind of it.
Well, if a country gets invaded and freed after, that is not an invasion. At least if the invasion did happen in the last decade. I don’t support keeping old conflicts alive. Else everybody could invade anybody since any country invaded at least once since the concept of countries.
But yea, in my opinion, the takeover of germany by the end of WW2, where de big border through Berlin was build, was an invasion and I don’t approve that invasion (you still see the scars from that invasion)
And hear you the difference between you and me. I would never wish anyone to have to die if they don’t want to. Not even the worst child raping serial killer. I would prefer to analyse this person’s psychology and find reasons that has led to that outcome and do anything to prevent others people from getting on the same path.
As I heard from the 7. October, where the party was slain by Hamas (I say Hamas not Palestine on purpose here) it hit me hard, as I myself am a Person enjoying exactly this style of music. But never did I wish death to the shooters there. I would prefer to talk and find a way how we can forgive each other.
But if this wish makes me an extremist in your eyes, I really don’t know what is wrong with you…