Jesus Christ this is Windows-tier insane computing behaviour from Ubuntu. Fuck Ubuntu.

Was obvious to anyone. Nothing wrong with phones except isolating outcasts, neuroduvergents and minorities from the world and forcing them with no escape to suffer the bullying from their teachers and class etc.

The latter.

You can’t really block a troll because one could spin up instances and accounts almost endlessly. You’d need to defed.

Great honestly. Had no issues. It’s a broader culture but everyone I spoke to there is usually chill and based af.

Huh? Did you respond to the wrong user?I’m not OP, I don’t go out talking at people at work.

All of my friends are already pretty much on the same page more or less, it’d be hard to be friends with someone who is against human rights or doesn’t care about such things as I’m a minority.

The question i posed in my comment was about a societal scale: what do you do to reach a disengaged electorate or an electorate that has no desire to know the truth and is not actively seeking it out whatsoever, instead believing things that re completely transparently false.

Because as it stands, the current strategy of content online or in traditional media simply ends up preaching to the choir, the lectures containing truth end up reaching only those who seek them out and as such already have an allegiance to the truth and likely at least to some extent agree with them, or see them as epistemologically well justified beliefs imperically and/or logically.

I personally rather obviously can’t make friends of like 50% of the population of a country for instance, so it’s not really a workable solution lol and I don’t think that’s what you meant.

So how do you show those people who believe transparently false things because it suits them the truth and teach them to want to seek out truth and want to believe the truth and to spot falsehoods and not be swayed by rhem, when those people have absolutely no interest in such things?

And if you can’t, what do you do then? Because these people will literally destroy a democratic society if given the chance.

That’s 100% true and a fault in OP’s attempt, but the broader question remains, if some people don’t seek it out, what do you do then?

Yes but like exercise, intellectual exercise feels good too. The question is why do some people not do it.

Yeah, but what do you do when a good chunk of the population doesn’t go ‘seeking something out’, yet vote and influence the lives of those who do anyway?

All anyone wants to do is lecture me about how they are right, and I am wrong if I think different than them

The only relevant question is - are you wrong?

Is your take actually valid? Based on sound imperical data? Is not fallacious? Does your reasoning stand up to scrutiny? Is it fact, or a belief? Is it a justified belief?

Ultimately you shouldn’t need to be coddled if you have any allegiance to the truth.

It’s one thing if a 3-year old gets 2+2 wrong. It’s another when it’s a 33 year old. Would you waste energy on that, or would you assume that the 33-year old doesn’t care enough to bother no matter what approach is used?

The unfortunate reality is that democracy as a vehicle for progress is a failure because not enough people have an allegiance to the truth, nor have the basic epistemological tools for determining what’s knowledge, what’s belief, what’s a hypothesis, what’s theory or what’s valid evidence or any idea of what the scientific method even is, or what an axiom is etc.

They favour their delusions (I don’t mean religion specifically) over truth.

Idk I listen to politics lectures all the time, most of which I don’t fully agree with, many I disagree with outright, listening to other takes, especially opposing ones helps me scrutinize my own reasoning and critically analyze what’s what.

It’s not really the lecturer’s fault he was lecturing, if he was right and so he should be lecturing others on truth. Much like any subject really.

This idea that all opinions are equal are how we ended up in a post-truth world.

Thought-terminating clichés of “everyone likes different things” or “people believe different things” are not just signs of a lazy intellect, they are the harbingers of our doom.

You can have beliefs that aren’t facts, in fact - you have to, but you can’t just believe whatever, you need to be able to justify it, and to do that you need to understand logic, you need to understand evidence, you need to understand the scientific method and how to reason.

Honestly extremely true as a diagnosed ADHDer. I would go nuts without background noise, I didn’t even realize my sheer need for stuff in the background until I got medicated and suddenly could sit in silence for hours and hours doing work, and even found it preferable, even having background music is distracting.

Thanks!

How come?

Why?

These same people vote for trump and they would support Reform, to them Musk doing the nazi salute is a signal that it’s their time to take the stage.

Too little too late. It’s all too late.

Cockpit.

Even positive ones? But what’s up with that?

Sir son of a toolmaker don’t you have better shit to do than beef with an extremely popular mayor on your side just telling it like it is?