Pandasdontfly

Something i’d like to ask is what did you expect but legitimately. And what are you doing to fix it you cant have a plan for having the betterment of a problem like in Gaza it fail cause both of the two known and only voteable options are genociders then choose to do nothing and that be the entire plan right. Assumedly your forming groups, protesting, pushing for reform not JUST non voting and sitting being a key board warrior right?

Inaction IS an action the only choice for non voting is ignorance OR confidence your actions will lead to an outcome that involves a new party entering or reforming. But again the issue is KNOWINGLY If trump won everyone said and knew we would be losing our rights and democracy and ANY chance to vote for someone much more reasonable so now there will be no process for you to not recognize I guess.

I’m all for seceding into a socialist cascadia please and thanks

Except why does that vote have to mean that you support them and not that you don’t support the even worse people. If we may never be able to vote again and may never have another ruler besides dictator don Will that have been worth the moral high ground?

No I hate her thoroughly (I just hate Trump 100 times more.) I just can’t quite understand what you’re coming to bat for Trump here? They both went all of Palestine dead they’re both horrible horrible straight up Hitler’s.

Smallest I can recognize is that I have trans friends they now worry that they’re going to die now and or their existence be outlawed at the absolute least even if running on a platform of trans support for appearance Kamala wouldn’t have regressed policy back into the 1600s probably just did nothing about it.

As for ukranians trump just tried stealing half their countries minerals without any benefits for them and then after the obvious dismissal of that he now just cancelled ALL military aid if it was not for other countries in response to that picking up the slack at noticing the traitorous nature america is becoming Trump would be giddy kicking his feet back and forth watching the entirety of Ukraine be ethnically cleansed on account Mr. krasnov and Putin are FWB.

On the account of Kamala she had TERRIBLE support for Ukraine just wanted to support the war minimally for maximum MIC profit and nothing more and at least that gave ukranians a fighting chance to live and not be genocided.

And the biggest the coup on the entire US government. At this point any chance of electing and other leader LET ALONE one much further left (compared to kamala) I’d prefer like Bernie or maybe even further left has gone out the window entirely with the only chance being a violent uprising which will also of course lead to many innocent deaths but that does not matter to you clearly.

Or just in this current cabinet like RFK running on a anti vax rhetoric which if he gets through and does what he says he will many many people will start dying from disease again lovely!!!

Or if Yarvin and Thiel get their way with their favorite little bitch JD current VP and literally destroy the country as JD has literally spoken out approving their rhetoric. (https://www.project2025.observer/ this is useful and very similar to the butterfly revolution from yarvin and don’t forget this is only the RELEASED first half of 25 they have states they don’t want to release the second part yet!)

Sending money seems pretty fucking complicit I have no clue what reality your living in.

The entire ai video of him being buddies with netanyahu and everything it says…

Trump has said many times he supports Israel and that is clear by the many money and arms gift they are getting to kill all Palestinians in not sure how much clearer you can get buddy.

Or are you just a trump apologist and don’t ACTUALLY care about anyone in Gaza. Kind of beyond that point I guess you must really care about all the Ukrainian too right?

https://www.france24.com/en/middle-east/20250303-netanyahu-trump-iran - “Donald Trump is the greatest friend that Israel has ever had in the White House”

Id say getting billions of dollars to support a genocide of an entire people is pretty much as bad as it could get… Along with the whole fact that we may never get a chance to elect someone ever again to have a chance at ACTUALLY ending this vile shit

Implying Trump won by having good takes?

See here’s my issue with All of this I 100% agree with you. What is this actually saying besides allowing people to be more aware?

The power I have right now to vote which is the only guaranteed power I have and by that I mean the only one I could be sure turns out in some fashion.

And yes we need things like reform and multi-party systems and rating-based voting and an overall reform kicking out most of these people but all this stuff takes time what I know I could do the second at least could have done is vote DC and at the very least guarantee the lives of my trans friends now that RB is in-house their lives are in danger.

I do try to do things I do protest I do other things but none of these things guarantee a change it’s all wish making until something eventually happens there’s no guarantee it ever will and I understand what you mean by saying they’re complicit they definitely are terrible and they genocide and do a lot of horrible things but at least for the couple of people I know I can make lives better by voting for them why shouldn’t I do that if I don’t I might as well be condemning them to the firing line myself even pulling the trigger.

so well there definitely not my preferred choice and I’ve made attempts to get other people in office or at least get people talking about them that doesn’t make them suddenly appear there and/or change the psyche of tens of millions of other democratic voters but I wish it would.

Also for the record I am fully open to being told in a way I don’t understand I want to learn I want to know why I’m not always knowledgeable about everything.

And Republicans got rid of them?

In a perfect world we would have a vote reform and get rating based voting…

The alternative… As the thread is talking about the alternative aka Republicans that ended up being elected.

And trump is saving lives by rescinding funding to Ukraine and siding with Putin allowing him to steamroll and ethnically cleanse and subjugate all ukranians right? And he is also helping by removing access to abortions and allowing people to die via failed births oh an all trans people I bet are suuuuuuuper helped by the outlawing of their mere existence?