Oh, absolutely. It’s a boundless problem. It happens with left wingers as well. It’s a disease in the way people think and engage with the world around them. Ideologies are badges now. They’re uniforms people wear. Similar to mental disorders on TikTok, Instagram, or, previously, on tumblr. That’s why I think the common link is social media. I know tribalism isnt a new phenomenon whatsoever, but widespread, more foundational tribalism on every single topic, kind of is.

People are arguing about reality. As soon as the right drifted away into fantasy politics, the bottom dropped out on discourse altogether. When about half the people are just straight up questioning long-known facts, the reality we all shared and could agree on suddenly became much more shaky and full of holes. Not that reality has changed, obviously, but when the discourse surrounding what we consider facts is questioned on this kind of scale, arguing that facts do, actually, exist just opens a sinkhole. And it’s not getting smaller. Because what are facts to everyday people if not something that we discuss and generally agree upon?

And the fact that this kind of magical thinking is spreading is more than troubling. It’s straight up doomsday shit.

So in a world where all of this is true and people invent an entirely new version of themselves to put online (and then lie to themselves that it’s actually them), pinning the “I’M A PROUD [democrat, Republican, communist, etc.]” to their chest is step one before they actually learn shit. They pick an identity and then look at every issue through that lens. Because they’ve found people online that belong to it and they choose that identity. Instead of learning and then realizing their ideology, they choose a team and then learn usually as little as possible to appear as if they belong. And get defensive and argue online with the “other” side, with wholly incomplete and usually inaccurate information that they looked up specifically to belong to an ideological group.

Fuckin crazy. You see problems like this, look at the state of discourse and really wonder…is there any coming back from this? How do we even start? Well, education. Obviously. But we all know that’s not gonna happen. We’re moving in the opposite direction as fast as we possibly can. (Because that serves the ownership class).

As others have mentioned, they didn’t fail to learn it. Broadness and vagueness is the point. It’s a weapon, and broadness makes it a sharper tool to suppress anyone and everyone. Membership isnt a thing. So worst case scenario, they can easily say, “they called trump a fascist, and antifa literature has stated they aim to fight what they call fascism. Therefore they’re enemies of the state.”

At what point is crying fascism going to actually scare people? Because shit like this is definitely scary. They want a reason to arrest you? They look back at your social media and say in 2020 you posted pro-BLM remarks, supported the protests and defended property destruction: antifa.

Fucked up.

What you’re noticing I think is actually a pandemic in modern society. People cannot fathom nuance. I dunno if social media put the final nail in the coffin of a long-festering problem, or if social media and the ensuing collapse in discourse birthed the problem alone.

Politics have become a team sport. All discourse has become a team sport. It’s binary. “You’re with me or you’re against me.” Or “information supports me or it’s rigged.” Extending that: “you’re my ideological enemy and whatever you think I think the opposite.” It doesn’t matter if it’s logical or it’s entirely contradictory. All that matters is getting to say “NO! You’re wrong and I’m right! You’re a [liberal, conservative, fascist, etc.]” Whatever serves their argument.

The complete inability to have logical discourse where the basis is reality, is itself responsible for the larger systemic problems. When there’s no common ground because the ground is either “yours or mine,” and when it changes in every discussion, there’s just no hope to ever do anything about problems. And the problems are mounting. And the ownership class is capitalizing on this constant culture war bullshit—and I mean “culture war” in the sense of each “ideology” having its in group and everyone else belonging to the out group—to run wild on what’s left of this current paradigm.

It’s hard not to feel doom when realizing this foundational problem. It undercuts any kind of underclass solidarity, so the class war is really just an ever-worsening class slaughter.

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Yeah, I never thought I’d be cheering for FIFA, but I’m looking forward to them coming out with their EA fc competitor.

But really, which organization is actually worse? It’s a close fuckin race

Kamala retained more male Biden voters than female. So these people need to let go of this line

Which grow lights do you use? I went with basically full spectrum/daylight grow lights because my red/blue didn’t seem to be giving my plants enough light. But I’d love to cut down on the amount of light in my room. And that purple just looks cool.

We…are emitting more carbon than ever before. And there’s room to increase that.

Think about it another way.

“It’s alright to call him the N-word because he doesn’t care about the right wing using it as a weapon.”

It’s not okay. It’s immoral. There are other morally gray methods, as we’ve seen in recent months, that are tools to use against oppressors and the capitalist class. Food for thought.

That’s wholly mischaracterizing the discussion.

“Half is X.”

Based on what?

“How dare you be so hateful!”

It’s a ridiculous argument. Throwing “transphobe” onto things that just happen to pertain to transgendered people, regardless of what’s actually being discussed, hurts the community way more than saying a claimed percentage is probably inaccurate. Way more.

This is the Israeli defense: anything that they don’t want to hear, they call antisemitic. Because it’s easier than having an argument and immediately puts the accused on their back foot.

But, and I’m sure you’ll agree with me here, that tactic ends up hurting Semitic people way more than whatever was being dismissed by Israel. That attitude is far more harmful to the conversation than engaging with the factual basis of the conversation.

Does changing the framing in that way help you see what I’m saying?

Fuck transphobia. I want the trans community to flourish and to be happy and free. But throwing the entire community in front of yourself in a personal argument in order to use “you’re transphobic” as a cudgel in a convo that otherwise isn’t about the actual trans community hurts the whole community way, way more. Because idiots will use that kind of shit as an excuse to hate the whole community—it’s basically asking for generalizing because you introduced the concept into the conversation. Just like idiots on the left have taken to antisemitism in a misconceived attempt at defending the Palestinian people, idiots will absolutely pick up the ball of likening an individual to the whole trans community.

I’m not your enemy here. I’m arguing for the trans community. We are having a difference of understanding but we both think we’re arguing for the same side. See what I’m trying to say?

There is a reason: it’s that those numbers are highly improbable. That’s a very good reason to say “I don’t think you can back up your claim.” The burden of proof isn’t on the person saying they don’t think the number is realistic, it’s on the person who pulled a percentage out of their ass lol

That’s my first and overarching point. My secondary point is that this is a falsely touchy topic. It’s not actually touchy, but because a particular embattled group is the subject being counted, it suddenly becomes perceived as caustic. Exactly as we’re seeing with you, right now. You’re perceiving a greater injustice than what the actual situation is exhibiting.

No one is calling into question the existence and plight of trans people. It’s just that you can’t pull a number out of your ass. Just because the number is counting an oppressed minority, suddenly people will falsely jump to say, “HEY!” Even though it’s not warranted. If the number we’re counting anything else, they wouldn’t be coming for the existence X, Y, or Z. If the person said “I have 2,000 carrots at my house” and another said, “that’s highly unlikely,” that person wouldn’t have anything against carrots. See what I’m saying,

There is no one coming after trans people. This person is coming at another person for making up a number. Simple as.

Third, actually, the original person is standing up for trans people because the hexbear user is throwing trans people in front of the actual subject of the attack: hexbear users. So you’re def angry at the wrong person.

That’s just them saying that the count is off. Theyre not calling anyone not trans. If I did a survey and the results were faulty about the amount of Black people, would it be racist to say the numbers seem off? About 0.5-1.6% of people in the US identify as trans. It would be quite a feat if half of their users were trans, when the unifying ideology is communism. Of course there are more trans people with leftist views, but what percentage of leftists are trans? We don’t have that number, but the chances of it equaling out to half of any user base that isn’t specifically trans-oriented are slim.

If they were to say “50% Of our user base has blue eyes,” it wouldn’t be hateful of blue eyed people to say that number is incorrect. It’s not about he identity of the unifying quality, it’s literally just about the claim that the number is way higher than it realistically is. You’re equating the hateful desire to erase trans people with simply saying “I don’t think the numbers can be that high.” Because it’s a touchy subject. But calling into question the probability isn’t hateful. Just math.

I mean, and this is the tiniest goddamn scrap of credit they could possibly muster at the fuckin last minute, but wasn’t this the current admin’s work? The incoming trump admin can’t negotiate yet because they’re not in office

Can you explain to a non codemonkey what this code actually says it’s supposed to do

Unfortunately there was a significant bloc of Arab-American (and just anti-genocide) US voters that thought trump cared about them and their plight. It was shortly after the election when he started hiring the most genocidal cabinet that they said, “hey!” There were a lot of articles about it. How people fell for that I don’t understand—well, I do, but I wish I didn’t. People can’t think two feet in front of their faces. They got on the whole “genocide Joe” train—which, let’s be real, this admin is very much bloody-handed. But that does not make the other option better. People cannot grasp nuance whatsoever. It’s an all-encompassing problem that manifested in this way this time.

One of us! One of us! One of us!

TRUTH was funded by tobacco giants—because the government made them. It was a settlement agreement, if I’m remembering correctly.

With he way people talk about it here you’d think they’re being asked to sacrifice a child to drive below 60th.