So if you read that book, or look into any of the research behind DV you will learn that it’s not really a problem women can confront at the source because the psychology behind it is one which fundamentally views women as inferior. In the same way if someone is racist somebody from a group they hate is unlikely to meet with much success trying to change their views (at best probably getting recognition as “one of the good ones”) women talking to men about why we’re actually whole-arse people doesn’t work very well.

Aside from trying in vain to get men to learn literally anything about why DV happens and why they can actually make a massive difference talking to their mates and setting norms for acceptable ideas about women at work/at the gym/at the club etc it’s not really in my means to donate to a shelter or whatever. I do volunteer for the greens around elections.

That said, being a woman in society there’s the sort of basic keeping an eye on things. Making a point to chat with neighbours, hosting drinks, sharing food etc that gives you a bit of a chance to have a network of support for people, victims tend to hide the harm believing themselves to be at fault so there’s not a good chance you’ll actually know. You can call a welfare check on a house if you hear a nasty fight but it’s unlikely to do much.

The left doesn’t want you to know this but 100% of leftist women are dommes

I do note an interesting difference in your approach to how to handle DV vs how to handle someone stringing a wire across a bike path. It may be a contradiction you wish to reflect on.

You might want to read this book to get a better idea behind the psychology of DV.

I’m not trying to have a go, I’m trying to understand. I agree that feeling shut out and having people say awful stuff because of your gender is bad. Surely you see that women deal with this too right though? and extremely extensively.

If you look at the upper echelons of society women are not there, if you look at the trades women aren’t respected, in corporate life women routinely feel like they have to get a man to say their ideas to be taken seriously. When I worked tech support I signed my emails with a man’s name because otherwise customers argued with me (this wasn’t me being ridiculous, my boss asked me to start doing it because he got annoyed reading the tickets going overtime).

So it’s like, surely having experienced some of it you get that all of it is bad right? You wouldn’t arrive at men being under attack, but rather gender equality being important so nobody feels this way.

It’s not like we’re choosing to let domestic violence to continue. We’re just as powerless as anyone else.

I think this is really interesting, who do you think can?

It’s also true that male loneliness is pretty significant, and lonely guys are more prone to developing extreme and hateful views but the only people that can do anything about man to man friendships are other men.

There are some fantastic initiatives like lens sheds that are trying to knit a healthy social structure and almost nobody participates in them.

“but you are a white man, you can’t help anyone” or something of the like. Really sticks with you.

That’s a silly thing to say but it also sounds like it came from the mouth of a teenager? Teenagers say lots of dumb stuff I wouldn’t recommend forming societal views based on them.

Most women have had the experience of being humiliated sexually, and belittled intellectually by young men. Do you feel that women should feel like we’re under attack?

This is what confuses me. I am mostly a lesbian but have dated men a few times. I never resented their traits I would consider manly.

My sisters are married to men and they seem to enjoy the fact that they’re men. They expect their partner to be sensitive, tactful, and mature but that is a basic expectation of every adult and not hard to meet.

My dad is a man, he’s extremely handy and always willing to show us the ropes of some task or help out with his knowledge. That seems like masculinity to me.

I don’t understand what men feel like they’re not allowed to do that is “being a man”. I get some stuff like roided up beauty standards are ridiculous but every human alive deals with impossible celebrity beauty.

Could you just summarise it because a video is sort of an inaccessible format for public text discussion?

which state election? Or do you mean federal 3 years ago?

“middle path of masculinity”, between the “emasculated” and “browbeaten” male of the far left and the Tate-like women haters and “pickup artists” of the far right.

“We want to foster the good side [of masculinity],” he says. “Which is being on the mission, wanting to be strong, being something of a warrior, but also being the good man, the loving husband, the loving partner, the good father”

“There is a vitriol against that idea[…]"

If you ask most people who allegedly want to brow beat men what “good masculinity” is you would probably get stuff like:

• strong and helpful
• patient
• skilled
• protects people
• Loving and attentive
• Takes care of body and mind
• Good in a crisis

This guy is claiming men are attacked for wanting to be strong, loving, a good father, and ‘something of a warrior’

Idk what the last means but I basically only see men attacked for

• treating women as less then men
• using violence to solve problems that could be talked out
• using violence on the vulnerable

Which uh, notably aren’t in his list of reason men are attacked. So I want to ask what men’s opinions are.

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