Has it patriarchy ever been abolished successfully? I don’t even think I know what that looks like.

monkeys georg.

I don’t think I’m repressing, just trying to run from experiencing reality. I know what it is, though, I just can’t bare being aware of it.

Don’t quote Malik el-Shabazz at me, he would have correctly and proportionately told you to “shut the fuck up, kkkrakkker” too.

These aren’t esoteric opinions I’ve got like fifty screenshots of very viewed posts/tweets in just a folder from 2024. I remember everyone saying shit like this, even IRL, I got yelled at and people saying I should get raped and murdered because I was against electoralism. I remember that shit being said to my face by these people in 2024.

You see all this shit and this is what you take away from it? The Dems are what is preventing the left from becoming powerful in America.

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This is surprisingly common of an experience for lesbians.

No weapons of war, no support for any country that commits genocide. The U.S won’t ever do that because it’s an imperialist country, so the their government should be hindered in their foreign policy at every opportunity.

I wish they were afraid of our wrath

Let’s open up the liberal archives from 2024 to remind everyone here.

This is liberal yaKKKubian tricknology make people believe that advocating for dual power is a bad thing. I’m not impressed that you’re quite literally trying to emotionally manipulate people into thinking that if you don’t support the Dems they’re murderers or some shit. That only makes sense if you collapse of all reality into two outcomes “democrats win” and “republicans win.” That’s like absolutely defeatist, believing the only options that exist are government approved ones. that kind of attitude will let horrors go on forever without ever being challenged, I would genuinely rather die than just lie down and accept that. I support worker power so that both parties can’t oppress us and we can stop them from terrorizing the rest of the world.

Shut up about your votes, I know you’re being manipulative. You say that they’re the lesser evil, but I guarantee you actually like liberals and just want people to stop talking about how they also kill people.

I AM trans, and no government has never actually supported me, I seriously doubt the effectiveness of the legal system in helping us, I got my medication from mutual aid, and other trans people are how I survive, the liberal party where I live has done none of this, the the government’s medical care is basically our enemy, I’ve been underdosed for years by my endocrinologist. You shut the fuck up about trans people. I disapprove of using our name to support genocidal liberals.

You are the fascist collaborator. Fuck the democrats, and fuck AmeriKKKa. I have friends in Iran and Lebanon and I don’t want them to die. I’ve never seen Americans get shredded to pieces by bombs and displaced by the millions, all of you fucking Westerners will be fine by comparison even if the Republicans win again, you’ll do fine. Maybe you people deserve to see just a fraction of what that’s like after supporting it.

You’re actually the one who’s kind of constantly shifting away from what I’m talking about:

You claim that Scandinavia is socialist. I say that no, they’re in the imperial core, and their economies are dependent on a global system of capitalism, that they’ve just exported the exploitation elsewhere, also that they are definitely imperialist (major exporter, benefits off of EU financial imperialism, unequal exchange with Russia, and Africa, and China, etc.).

Then you say that Finland was just clever and found ways to sell expensive consumer goods to the USSR after the Second World War (a war where they invaded the USSR as an ally of Germany) and used the opportunity when the Soviet Union was recovering from severe damage to get their oil cheaply and make them pay high prices for necessary commodities. You also say that didn’t get cheap goods from Africa, which just isn’t true, they were getting ore and a bunch of agricultural products that originated in Africa during the Post-War era, where do you think that things like rubber, and coffee, and tea, and palm oil, and sugar, and cocoa, and phosphate, and copper, and gold, and a lot of crude oil, everything else came from? These commodities don’t just magically appear out of European markets.

Then you say, Ha, Finland, imperialist, that’s unbelievable, Finland is a tiny country and the USSR was bigger.

Then I say that doesn’t make sense because it wasn’t just Finland doing it, they could only put pressure on the USSR like that because the rest of Post-War Western Europe was also doing it.

Then you say, I’m shifting goalposts.

I say again, that Finland invaded the USSR (later benefiting from the damages caused during WW2), so therefore it’s a literally ridiculous to claim that tiny Finland cannot possibly be imperialist just because it’s tiny.

And you say that the Finnish government back then was not the same as the one now, and there’s no continuity between the two…

There’s no end to this. I point out flaws in your position and then you shift the argument. Each time I am burdened with the task of proving that the next thing you say doesn’t make sense.

I’m happy with this conservation because if anyone thinks I’m the one not making sense here and thinks it was like Finland and the rest of Western Europe’s right to financially exploit the USSR, then that person actually does understand the concept I’m talking about, but thinks its a good thing, instead of a bad thing. Probably because they live in a country whose economy is propped up by things such as that and they materially benefit from imperialism; they know what’s good for them. There’s just no argument there except for moral ones.

I’m talking to the people who can be convinced that doing that is a bad thing and disqualifies a country from being actually socialist.

Russia is also conscripting like teenagers to die on the front lines, though yeah, I haven’t seen videos of like stealing people off the street from them yet. It’s not like there’s a good side here.

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Huh, weird how Finland is there. The country that didn’t do anything to the USSR.

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so Finland could sell absolutely everything there in exchange for cheap oil.

You are literally describing how imperialism works. Exploiting the USSR after its industry was destroyed after WW2, after they literally invaded the USSR as an ally of Germany no less, and getting its oil for cheaply in exchange for expensive consumer goods afterwards. You are literally describing what I said. And yes, Finland and most of Europe got a return on their investments in Africa.

I’m happy to let you define what’s socialist and what’s not.

Socialism is when the working class is the ruling class.

Nordic countries are so stable because they import raw resources and cheap consumer goods (which are underpriced because of financial imperialism) from mainly Africa, China, and Russia, and then export monopoly priced machinery, processed goods, and weapons. They literally could not develop if not for the EU getting rich from neocolonialism in Africa.

The main exports of Scandinavian social democracies are cars, industrial machinery, petroleum products, and weapons (mainly Sweden, which is actually one of the world’s largest arms exporters, which are being used currently in mainly Ukraine and Yemen against Ansar Allah). While they import everything under the sun from the global South. Consumer-based, highly financialized economies are not socialist.