Is it Carbon Tax Carney? Canapé Carney? Redistribution Carney? Right now, Canada's Conservatives can't even settle on a nickname for their likely opponent in the next federal election, much less a compelling argument against his candidacy.
The only thing I’m scared of, is the Michael Ignatieff effect. The liberals have tried this one before. Michael Ignatieff is on a plane that is well beyond any of our comprehension. Which works really well in academia, but not so well when it comes to trying to deal with the common world and to level with the common man.
This guy sure as shit ain’t a dummy, and I’ve actually had the pleasure of being at lectures with him, and buddy is pretty gosh darn smart. We’d be a better nation with him leading us for a little while. Problem is, half the population are wearing raccoon hats and railing ivermectin, and cheering over transport truck horns from parking lot encampments in the middle of nowhere. The other half gets their education solely from Facebook. We are still pretty fucked, me be thinking. He’s polling well as a liberal, but the polls at the macro level are still looking like a clear CON blood bath across the country.
Honestly I feel like Trudeau was honestly a good guy with good values and good ideas but he somehow got pushed into the Liberal party mold and was forced to toe the party line even if he was the leader. Like there are outside forces that made him change his plans.
I wanted electoral reform but I think going for it would have been a mess.
No two major parties agreed on what should replace FPTP.
If the liberals had used a majority to unilaterally rewrite our elections that sets a bad precedent (Not that precedent seems to matter much these days).
He had a majority, didn’t need any input from other parties. He didn’t want to do it because he knew it would stop him from getting a majority at the next election. It’s that simple.
No actual policy proposals, just going off his past record. I don’t think he has a published plan at all yet, he did recently write a book about his views.
He’s an Economist who’s run the central bank of what, 3 countries? Makes sense to me if his entire focus was long term stability that he’d be anti inequality and climate change.
Really looking forward to everyone dropping platforms.
This more or less validates where I am on him. It seems you’ve parsed most of the same info as me and come to similar conclusions. I’m cautiously optimistic. There’s lots of important implementation details that could make him better or worse. For example he’s been concerned with wealth inequality before it was cool, however it matters how you address that. You could make things better for corpos and hoping they’ll increase wages, which some have done in the past. You could strengthen labour rights to increase union density and therefore wages. One of those does not work. :D On one hand concrete policy proposals could shed light. On the other, it doesn’t matter because Freeland is worse and she has lesser chance to prevent the worst case scenario. 😂
He’s releasing a new book in may where he talks about the future of Canada. Have we ever had any other politician with long term dreams, clearly stated?
Yeah. I mean, Canada does have bright future under non-neolib governance. We have a lot of territory that won’t be devastated by climate change (some will). More natural resources than we could possibly use. The culture to generally tolerate imported labour when the general material conditions are decent. If he’s really worried about climate change, and by all accounts it seems he is, he might be thinking about Canada’s future as his own in a long term climate sanctuary context. I would if I were running for a PM.
The more I read about his policies and views, the more I like him. He’s way better than any other option I’ve seen for the liberals.
The only thing I’m scared of, is the Michael Ignatieff effect. The liberals have tried this one before. Michael Ignatieff is on a plane that is well beyond any of our comprehension. Which works really well in academia, but not so well when it comes to trying to deal with the common world and to level with the common man.
This guy sure as shit ain’t a dummy, and I’ve actually had the pleasure of being at lectures with him, and buddy is pretty gosh darn smart. We’d be a better nation with him leading us for a little while. Problem is, half the population are wearing raccoon hats and railing ivermectin, and cheering over transport truck horns from parking lot encampments in the middle of nowhere. The other half gets their education solely from Facebook. We are still pretty fucked, me be thinking. He’s polling well as a liberal, but the polls at the macro level are still looking like a clear CON blood bath across the country.
Another thing he has going for him is that he did not go against electoral reform. Nathaniel Erskine-Smith’s endorsement is the cherry on top for me.
Yeah but so was Trudeau.
Honestly I feel like Trudeau was honestly a good guy with good values and good ideas but he somehow got pushed into the Liberal party mold and was forced to toe the party line even if he was the leader. Like there are outside forces that made him change his plans.
That might just be a hunch though.
I wanted electoral reform but I think going for it would have been a mess.
No two major parties agreed on what should replace FPTP.
If the liberals had used a majority to unilaterally rewrite our elections that sets a bad precedent (Not that precedent seems to matter much these days).
He had a majority, didn’t need any input from other parties. He didn’t want to do it because he knew it would stop him from getting a majority at the next election. It’s that simple.
fascists worldwide have already set that precedent.
Have you seen any actual policy proposals? Did you tease out anything about attitude towards labour?
No actual policy proposals, just going off his past record. I don’t think he has a published plan at all yet, he did recently write a book about his views.
He supported occupy wall street which says a lot to me. https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/bank-of-canada-head-calls-occupy-protests-entirely-constructive/article4182646/
And he’s hard core pro climate, where he thinks it makes financial sense too. https://calgaryherald.com/opinion/columnists/braid-mark-carney-is-a-climate-zealot-who-wont-back-off-trudeau-climate-agenda
The views section here is pretty good too. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Carney
He’s an Economist who’s run the central bank of what, 3 countries? Makes sense to me if his entire focus was long term stability that he’d be anti inequality and climate change.
Really looking forward to everyone dropping platforms.
Edit: Carney has a book Value(s): Building a Better World for All, might be worth looking at, probably going to give good insight into his views.
Economist need not be lesse faire or free market capitalist
Most of the ones in the media just focus on market efficiency though
This more or less validates where I am on him. It seems you’ve parsed most of the same info as me and come to similar conclusions. I’m cautiously optimistic. There’s lots of important implementation details that could make him better or worse. For example he’s been concerned with wealth inequality before it was cool, however it matters how you address that. You could make things better for corpos and hoping they’ll increase wages, which some have done in the past. You could strengthen labour rights to increase union density and therefore wages. One of those does not work. :D On one hand concrete policy proposals could shed light. On the other, it doesn’t matter because Freeland is worse and she has lesser chance to prevent the worst case scenario. 😂
He’s releasing a new book in may where he talks about the future of Canada. Have we ever had any other politician with long term dreams, clearly stated?
That excites me.
Yeah. I mean, Canada does have bright future under non-neolib governance. We have a lot of territory that won’t be devastated by climate change (some will). More natural resources than we could possibly use. The culture to generally tolerate imported labour when the general material conditions are decent. If he’s really worried about climate change, and by all accounts it seems he is, he might be thinking about Canada’s future as his own in a long term climate sanctuary context. I would if I were running for a PM.