65???
Look at Richie McMoneybags over here living in his Socialist utopia where he doesn’t have to keep working until he keels over dead on the clock.
Humans: “I love nature.”
Also Humans: “Let’s live and work in concrete boxes stacked into the sky!”
We’re working on 7-8billion people on this tiny little rock. We all need to be living in dense urban setups. This entitlement most of us have is ridiculous. We are straight up ruining this planet with our endless suburbs and desire to own a chunk of wilderness. As if our own enjoyment and personal appreciation is a virtue worth the destruction we wreak with our presence.
Al Gore said it best, it’s an inconvenient truth.
Just because it’s the most efficient way for all of us to live doesn’t mean it’s good for us. There are too many humans for this planet to support. We need to reduce the population ethically. Stop having kids.
I agree about the population, however Im not sure living in an apartment building is unhealthy. Or at least it doesn’t have to be. I am sure endless suburbs of detached single family housing, surrounded by seas of asphalt and treated lawns is.
If the people who lived in apartment buildings automatically co-owned the building, and landlords were illegal, then I’d be OK with it. Suburbs should be illegal. Everywhere people live should look and operate like downtowns. Healthy small businesses right below attractive apartments and all beautiful architecture.
But I also don’t think people should be prevented from living in rural, even isolated areas. Some of us simply are unsuited for it. But it shouldn’t be illegal. Only extreme wealth, landlords and owning more than, say, 3 nice houses should be illegal.
I’m with ya on not being a serf in some neo-feudal hellscape we increasingly find ourselves in. Fuck paying rent to never own anything. Fuck landlords who add zero value to anything. I’m all about the denser commercial residential mash up.
But where do you draw the line? Living rurally I mean. We have a tendency to frame these things by what’s fair to the individual. I think we ought to be asking what’s fair to the earth, the eco system, what’s fair to the generations to come? One or two people hanging in the woods isn’t a problem, but there’s 8 billion of us. In my region the suburbs don’t end. They pitter out into ever less dense housing. Everyone with a car, with miles of pavement to drive them on. Innumerable leaky septic tanks, endless lawns that leak pesticides and fertilizer. And everyone feeling it’s their inalienable right to do so, a virtue to be lauded even. We’re just a fucking disaster.
I’d challenge everyone to look inward and ask what they feel entitled to, and the price in environmental degradation they’re willing to inflict on the rest of us and future generations get it.
Corporations have figured out how to make indentured servitude look good and reasonable with your credit card debt, taxes you can’t evade like they can, bills and healthcare “benefits” added to your permanent and relentless tab alongside meager time off so the C suites can fly on private jets, lobby against your livelihood and hope you are none the wiser bc most ppl are.
Don’t forget your copious amounts of insect repellent.
You won’t need that anymore as insects have been in a steady decline
Just find any thing that smells like mint or citrus and you’ll be fine.
I live in Jackson Hole, Wyoming and spend a lot of time in the summer camping in and around our national parks (Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Often, the only thing that will do the trick is taking a bath in deet.
There was only one catch and that was Catch-22, which specified that a concern for one’s life in the face of work that were real and immediate was the process of a rational mind. I was crazy and could be not working. All i had to do was ask; and as soon as i did, i would no longer be crazy and would have to work more. I would be crazy to work more and sane if i didn’t, but if i was sane i had to work. If i work i was crazy and didn’t have to; but if i didn’t want to i was sane and had to.
I’m very anti-work, but one night in that environment with no shelter and food and I’d be dreaming of an office space. That being said, there is definitely a better world somewhere between working 50-80hours a week and sleeping outside with no shelter or food.
You’re comparing what even our ancestors before sapiens had against the modern world. How about Babylon? Or the native Americans that so many “civilized” Americans ran off into the woods to join. Survival of the fittest was absolutely a thing sure, but at the same time, look at people’s lives now, look at healthy people’s lives in Brazil’s favella, Gaza, Sudan, war zone or not. I live in the wonderful capital of Scotland yet there are people on the edges who have lives worse than a 3000bc person.
Yeah that’s kinda my point.
I don’t think the post is implying a desire to live in nature, but rather expressing the inability to ever visit because of work
Why wouldn’t you have shelter or food? Emergency shelter takes an hour to build if you’ve never done that before and as long as you can tie a knot and find both woods and stone you can have a reasonably durable shelter in a week.
Food is even easier as long as you did literally any outdoors skills as a kid. While the picture suggests a landscape a bit north and a bit alpine, fish, berries, root vegetables and/or tree nuts will be available to you all year.
Take a survival and foraging course. A couple weekends of education will save your life when capitalism inevitably collapses.
I have taken a foraging course! My wife and I actually forage a small amount. But I’ve never taken a survival course. I’ll just freeze to death and I’m ok with that.
You should, at least one working with primitive shelters. Once you understand how easy it is and the relatively low maintenance requirements you’ll start getting into Bushcraft, and from there you’ll want land just to make little log-based moss covered shelters that can last for decades.
I’d love to do that someday. Maybe when my daughter is old enough to learn as well.
I’m so tired, somebody please help.
Yes. So your boss can enjoy the view.
You on the other hand can get fucked asshole.
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That’s pretty much the synopsis of the Yellowstone tv show.
Hahahaha get a load of this guy. He thinks he gets to retire ahahahhahaha
This beautiful landscape is missing a Walmart with a 600 car parking lot.
The worst part is that parking lot is probably mandatory per city regulations. We should abolish parking mandates country wide! (and you can help too, see https://parkingreform.org/)
We need mass public transportation. Buses, trains, trolleys, and walkable cities.
yes, instead of scrounging for berries when you’re 75 and dying of an infected wound from when you fell over on that mountain
What culture sent wounded elders out to forage for berries?
do you see any other houses out there? My man’s willing to forgo work (not even just capitalist work for a bastard, just work) to be out there in the wilderness.
Good luck with the bears!
meme says 9-5 until you’re 65. so i think they are specifically talking about capitalist work for a bastard. idk, I guess we’re not on the same page about what the purpose of “work” is and if survival counts as work
i think OP just wants a society that doesn’t value work for profit and doesn’t view survival as something to be meted out by an upper class based on how you please them, but maybe im projecting.
sure, but I’m emphasising “world looks like this” more. If op gets their wish, survival won’t be meted out by an upper class, it’ll be meted out by the mercy of bears and other animals, the mercy of the seasons, and the mercy of the ability of their surroundings to consistently provide them with food.
Oh boi 🤦♂️
The purpose of life is to sit in a cubicle and work to destroy this for the sake of shareholder profits. It’s a very efficient system
Sacrifice more time on this planet to the global suicide machine, so you can buy toys
Ooo! I like toys
Looks like glacier national Park
People used to have more free time. But today we have graphics cards.
I don’t know that many people who can afford a graphics card anymore though.
I don’t think anyone has the time anymore to enjoy their graphic cards they already own.
I mean, there are ways to go and work there instead.
Not as many as there used to be.
No but if it’s that important to you, go and apply. Become a park ranger, become a forester. The power is yours.
There’s enough available jobs for all 8 billion of us? Awesome!
