Summary

Democratic divisions intensified as Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Nancy Pelosi sharply criticized Chuck Schumer for supporting a Republican-led funding bill to avoid a government shutdown.

AOC called Schumer’s decision a “betrayal,” urging Senate Democrats to reject the legislation backed by Trump and Elon Musk. Pelosi called the bill a “devastating assault” on working families.

Schumer defended his stance, arguing a shutdown would empower Trump and Musk further.

The controversy sparked suggestions among Democrats that AOC might challenge Schumer in a primary.

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    4 days ago

    Wasn’t this a CR for the dem’s own spending bill…? So its the same bill the dems had right?

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      the bill has funds for departments and agencies that dont exist anymore and it would give the administration a giant pile of free money with no strings attached

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      3 days ago

      no but you don’t understand! IF YOU HAD JUST VOTED, WE COULD HAVE HAD TEN CHUCK SCHUMERS TO VOTE FOR THE FASCIST CRAP! so really everything bad that happened is your fault for not voting. how dare you fail the democratic party like this.

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    4 days ago

    Dems need to stop pretending Schumer is the only problem, any other dem in his position would have done the same thing including AOC. The party is rotten to the core it’s just a revolving door of sycophants who server wall st and capital. The party is working as intended. Notice how Dems never have power to make actual change, never have the backbone to oppose republicans, and when they have majorities they never use their power for actual progress or at the very least codifying laws like roe v wade ect. They are there to act like an opposition party not actually be one. The working class is perpetually screwed.

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      4 days ago

      I will never again take AOC or any other “squad” member seriously as long as they proudly call themselves Democrats. Go independent like Bernie or start another party. Until then, if they want to keep giving themselves the same label as Schumer or Fetterman, I’m going to lump them in the same batch of assholes and idiots.

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          Its funny I have suddenly seen the leave the party thing pop up in multiple places at the exact same time.

          Beginning to think it’s AstroTurf to get the noise people out of the way and into 3rd party oblivion

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    4 days ago

    I have been extremely pro-democrat and it has driven me insane how the far left ONLY ever shits on democrats when they are objectively better than republicans on every single issue. Democrats generally vote in the direction of increased taxes on the rich, more access to healthcare, better safety nets, etc. while republicans are just demons who obstruct all progress for the sake of destroying the world. But after Trumps election, watching the cowardice of the dems actually fucking disgusts me. They might as well be republicans with their lack of response. Just a fucking disgrace. Fuck Cuck Schumer. I will stop defending dems. Trumps election is the official end of both parties. Neither of those parties can be allowed to survive if the US manages to survive this.

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      Democrats aren’t generally pro taxing the rich or deviating significantly on many issues since Clinton and the 90s. Yes, some of the squad said that they were pro-taxing the rich when they knew that there was no possibility of it being brought to a vote and the Democrats maintained a pretend opposition to the extreme violations of civil rights in the war on terror or ICE deportations. But after Obama, the most extreme and worst excesses of the war on terror were bipartisan, and after Biden all ICE and immigration policies were fully bipartisan (he continued the obviously facetious use of COVID as a terrible, contagious disease to deny asylum seekers, just as Trump did, after saying COVID was over, and continued deportations and putting immigrants in ICE concentration camps, when 4 years prior Democrats could understand that was fascist). That is why the left hates Democrats. Because the two-party system means the Democrats can absorb all opposition to the Republicans, while continuing all of their policies and claiming that wanting any movement to the left/away from fascism is only helping the Republicans. That we should just continue the Republican’s policies, but it is fine because Obama is going to file the paperwork correctly to send Arabs to blacksites or Biden is going to file the paperwork correctly to do ICE deportations at a greater rate than Trump [term 1] or genocide in Gaza. The Democrats are above criticism and should be allowed to do fascist immigration policy or genocide.

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    His vile cowardice is something I’m seeing people talk about, but the sheer stupidity of it isn’t touched on.

    CHUCK. HE IS GOING TO FUCKING KILL YOU! THE D NEXT TO YOUR NAME MAY AS WELL BE THE STAR OF DAVID ON YOUR CHEST YOU DUMB FUCK! DICTATORS DO NOT LET “OPPOSITION” PARTY MEMBERS LIVE. NO MATTER HOW HELPFUL THEY WERE IN GIVING THEM POWER!

    Like are you fucking stupid?

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      There’s plenty of opposition parties in Russia, for example. They’re just all controlled. They use intentional gaffs to throw the election to the “correct” winner. If they start getting too uppity and stop following orders, they get banned from running on some technicality.

      Navalny is what happens when even that doesn’t work, but he was very much the exception.

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    I am an Independent and think both sides suck on the whole political spectrum in this country. I’m also from NY and both of my Democratic senators voted to pass this blank check to Trump and Elon.

    The Democrats have gone about dealing with Trump and his disciples in Congress the completely wrong way from day one. They try to be civil and favor the traditional ways of solving things in Congress. They have basically been bringing a pink plastic toy baseball bat to a gun fight this whole time that Trump has been in office this term.

    And because of that, here we were with 2 horrible choices for them. But one choice would have shown that they had enough of the B.S. and had some kind of a spine. The “right” thing for Chuckie to do was to be united and stand firm that they wouldn’t approve this CR and force a shut down unless they had a say in some of the solutions in the bill. Pain was coming either way, why not go down fighting and show that you were on the right side of history?

    Given the past month and a half (holy shit it feels like it’s been a decade) and the track record of Elon and Trump so far, I am very afraid of what is coming in the next month and a half – let alone when this budget fight resumes in September.

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    AOC needs to form a new party or at least go independent with Bernie. I’d really like an alternative to the Democrats because I’ll never be voting for them again.

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      No. She’s on a path that will shape the democrats of the future. If she leaves she will become irrelevant, and she knows it.

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        The path to to what future? One of greedy meekness? It’s the same mindset of people that hang on to Twitter to see if they can change the algorithm for good. So long as the RNC and DNC exist with their CEO’s and people like Nanci Pelosi and Chuck Schumer making decisions for you, the money will always determine the winners and the losers. None of them are ever going to give up a position that just keeps making money, tax free. This is especially true when the money comes from well hidden sources called Super PACs. I’m for parties breaking up.

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          One thing a lot of people really struggle with is that if you see something going on you don’t like in an organisation, you have to options:

          1. Leave and set out on a new path
          2. Stay and try to change the organisation from within.

          I think too many people choose option 1, especially in politics. They resign and say “not in my name”. However, from their opponents point of view they’re now defeated. The obstacle is removed. They can now do exactly what they wanted to do, and probably go further.

          The harder option is 2. Stay and fight, and probably lose multiple times, but you’ll make your opponent’s goals as hard as possible to achieve. You may even start winning and through your example bring others to your cause.

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    Democrat voters are tired of compromising. MAGA thinks they want to burn the US down so they can “own the libs” … well let’s fucking do it. Let’s test their theory in the laboratory of life.

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    The same New York Democrat machine behind all the establishment Democrats put AOC there too. Meet the new boss same as the old boss.