and are there things that aren’t human, that we should consider treating to at least some degree like people? hypothetical actual-AI, various large mammals, corvids, cephalopods, hypothetical aliens, superorganisms of whatever kind, etc?
if your answer is “because I want it extended to me” fascists will not do that. treating them like people does not forward your goal. disrespecting them might.
if your answer is about some fundamental capacities you respect, my bet is fascists have less of those than the average dog, and extending them any courtesy you would not extend to a dog should not be extended to fascists. not that you should extend them any of the courtesies you would extend to a dog. they are not good boys.
Really? This is where you want to take it? There’s plenty of scholarly discussion about dehumanization (particuarly surrounding WW2 and the events leaading up to it)…
Here is something I found after a quick search (I’m sure there are better examples out there. Hannah Arendt is a good place to start):
This, the authors tell us, is an example of dehumanization. The doctors fail to recognize their shared humanity with the prisoner: they fail to empathize with their victim, which leads them to disregard his suffering, which in turn enables them to treat him in ways they would otherwise have deemed morally abhorrent.
The concept of dehumanization has assumed a prominent place in socialscientific thinking on genocide and mass atrocity. It has been called a “master category” in discussions of mass murder (Goldhagen 2009, 319) and “a chief premise in scholarly accounts of the Holocaust” – the “sine qua non” of such “large- scale evil” (see Vetlesen 2005, 93). Many scholars see dehumanization as a necessary precondition for genocide. Sociologists portray the diminishment of the victims’ human status as a “prerequisite to their destruction” (Alvarez 1997, 168).“ Without dehumanization,” historians argue, “the murderers could not have committed their crimes” (Blatman 2011, 424). The president of Genocide Watch has declared dehumanization one of eight universal “stages of genocide” (Stanton 1998) and psychologists confirm that “no mass atrocities in the contemporary world have occurred without some form of dehumanization” (Kressel 2002, 172).
I was going to copy/paste more before realizing I was just copying the entire page. I highly recommend you just read the thing yourself.
Nothing good ever comes from dehumanizing people.
Regarding your argument about other animals… I just… I don’t even know what to say. We are talking about humans being viewed as less than human. Has nothing to do with treating animals like people (which is also something we shouldn’t do, but for completely unrelated reasons).
okay you’re just arguing in bad faith because I said in another thread that your degree was bullshit. cry more, maybe go rape some of your patients or something, whatever you do to chill.
okay, so, what is a person? why does it matter?
and are there things that aren’t human, that we should consider treating to at least some degree like people? hypothetical actual-AI, various large mammals, corvids, cephalopods, hypothetical aliens, superorganisms of whatever kind, etc?
if your answer is “because I want it extended to me” fascists will not do that. treating them like people does not forward your goal. disrespecting them might.
if your answer is about some fundamental capacities you respect, my bet is fascists have less of those than the average dog, and extending them any courtesy you would not extend to a dog should not be extended to fascists. not that you should extend them any of the courtesies you would extend to a dog. they are not good boys.
Really? This is where you want to take it? There’s plenty of scholarly discussion about dehumanization (particuarly surrounding WW2 and the events leaading up to it)…
Here is something I found after a quick search (I’m sure there are better examples out there. Hannah Arendt is a good place to start):
https://www.cambridge.org/core/books/abs/anthem-companion-to-hannah-arendt/explaining-genocide-hannah-arendt-and-the-socialscientific-concept-of-dehumanization/9F5785E91D0742BD3429D7B1933156F1
I was going to copy/paste more before realizing I was just copying the entire page. I highly recommend you just read the thing yourself.
Nothing good ever comes from dehumanizing people.
Regarding your argument about other animals… I just… I don’t even know what to say. We are talking about humans being viewed as less than human. Has nothing to do with treating animals like people (which is also something we shouldn’t do, but for completely unrelated reasons).
okay you’re just arguing in bad faith because I said in another thread that your degree was bullshit. cry more, maybe go rape some of your patients or something, whatever you do to chill.