Summary

Bernie Sanders and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez condemned Donald Trump and Elon Musk at a packed Arizona rally, accusing them of harming working-class Americans and promoting oligarchy.

Sanders denounced corporate CEOs as “major criminals” exploiting workers, while Ocasio-Cortez called for stronger Democratic leadership.

Rallygoers urged Ocasio-Cortez to challenge Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer after he supported a Republican funding bill.

The rally, part of Sanders’ “Stop Oligarchy” tour, follows criticism of the Democratic Party’s weak response to Trump’s agenda and features further events in Colorado and Arizona.

  • minkymunkey_7_7@lemmy.world
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    The powers and process screwed over Bernie in 2016. It would have unquestionably been a clear victory over orange circus clown. He would have been one of the greatest leaders in the 21st century. Now he’s too old, even though the fire is still in him. But we do know now that America hates women, especially of colour, for leaders. AOC wouldn’t have a chance until a huge social upheaval to change such attitudes and core hatred has occurred, possibly the Civil War 2/WW3.

    Just like how past world wars created the world we live in today. Before WW1, before men of all social classes bled together in the trenches of Europe it was quite a different attitude regarding the rights of people and classes compared to after the event. The schools of fascism and communism was very enticing to populations after such a wanton and colossal loss of life by poor leadership on the battlefields.

    • JcbAzPx@lemmy.world
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      21 hours ago

      Clinton and Harris didn’t lose because they were women. They lost because their campaigns were broken.

      Harris was sabotaged by Biden trying to cling to power despite not being fit for the job anymore and Clinton thought she had such a guaranteed win she didn’t even bother to try to counter her image as the career politician that was everything wrong with government at the time. They would have both still lost even if they were old rich white men.

      And, before you say it, Biden only won because of the pandemic. If people hadn’t been dying in droves at the time, we would have already finished with Trump’s second term by now.

    • melpomenesclevage@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      a sanders/occasio-cortez ticket would work, and basically be a coronation for her, if we can do enough work to still have elections in four years.

      • FearMeAndDecay@literature.cafe
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        I think AOC is awesome and I think she’d do great work as like pres/vp, but I like that she’s a representative too. She keeps the focus on congress and does a good job of showing people that it’s not just the president that matters. I’d totally vote for her if she ran for president/vp but I also would like it if she just became a congressional leader (like official minority leader or leader of a new party) for actual progressives in congress. I don’t know if that all made sense, but basically I’m trying to say that people don’t have to keep aiming higher. She does and can continue to do good work in congress and that’s just as important as presidential work

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            I know that congress is useless, but it’s not supposed to be. That’s why I like AOC being a prominent house rep and why I think it’d be great if we could primary out these old “democrats” (that just vote with the republicans half the time anyways) and elect progressives like AOC so that congress will actually work for the people and be a check on the executive power so that we don’t have any more presidents like this in the future… if we have a future

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              and I know windows is horrible to use, but it’s not SUPPOSED to be.

              I still use arch.

              AOC was in the fucking CIA. so maybe grain of salt. I’m ready for her to pull an obama. if you’re old enough to remember him before he was president.

              fuck the dems. fuck primaries. fuck that party forever. fuck them. never forgive. it’s not like there’s gonna be real elections again, anyway. anonymous says even this latest one was bullshit, and I already low key believed that. please stop clinging to your lib shit fantasies.

              we are so far past ‘progressives’ and gentle adjustments. the world is on fire, and we’ve been letting it burn for decades. we have a deep infection of fascism. if you want life on earth to survive, we need radical shit. you will not get that by voting.

              im not saying don’t vote. im saying you won’t get another chance. i’m saying it’s too late to fix stuff like that. I’m saying maybe carter was your last real shot at fixing things by voting for gentle mild changes.

      • octopus_ink@slrpnk.net
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        21 hours ago

        I truly love Bernie but I am pretty sure he’d tell you himself he’s too old now, and even if not, MANY voters would have reasonable concerns. I like a Walz-Ocasio-Cortez ticket to get her in then a pres run after that though.