• CileTheSane@lemmy.ca
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      2 days ago

      when things actually start happening.

      gestures broadly

      Things like American citizens being deported to foreign prisons when they have not committed a crime?
      Travellers with legal visas at the border being imprisoned and tortured instead of just turned away?
      Private citizen data being stolen from government facilities while federal employees are illegally terminated from their jobs?
      States being threatened with loss of funding until the King gets a personal apology up to his standards?

      What things are you waiting for?

      • KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        13 hours ago

        is there actually evidence of them being tortured?

        Illegally detained sure. The worst thing that’s happening right now is the deportation stuff, but we’ve done this before, multiple times. Notably with the japanese.

        It’s not good, don’t get me wrong, but we’ve done it before, and came back from it once. All of this shit is also being challenged by the judicial branch, whenever it gets off of its ass that is.

        most of these things haven’t gone through fully, or are being immediately responded to with lawsuits. USAID for example. Immediately overturned in court.

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          10 hours ago

          Eagles said the detainees at the San Luis facility have no sleeping mats or blankets or windows, and the lights are on all day and night.

          https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/north/canadian-detained-us-border-1.7483021

          Now we could quibble about the degree of torture, but then we would be arguing about how much torture is acceptable for someone who had a visa, a job in the US, and was apprehended at the border instead of just denied entry.

          And again I ask, what specific things need to happen before people will start doing something about it?