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realitista@lemm.ee to Science Memes@mander.xyzEnglish · 2 months ago

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  • Fossifoo [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    2 months ago

    A 11.8 and a 13 in parallel is 6.1854838709677 which is 0.01% off from that resistance. Of course even using matched 1% would screw you as soon as someone opens the door.

    • xthexder@l.sw0.com
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      2 months ago

      You could get exactly 6.1854838709677 for an instantaneous moment by heating up a 6ohm resistor.

      • lennivelkant@discuss.tchncs.de
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        2 months ago

        So you just need to figure out the precise amount of prewarming, then subsequently cooling in coordination with the circuit’s load to make sure it stays at the right temperature?

  • ShimmeringKoi [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    2 months ago

    miyazaki-laugh I didn’t realize until just now that I missed this comm actually

  • NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    First of all, why are they in the chip aisle looking for resistors? Everybody knows they’re in the bread aisle…

    • Tolookah@discuss.tchncs.de
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      2 months ago

      If you’re breadboarding this, you’ve already lost

    • Routhinator@startrek.website
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      2 months ago

      He’s going to make potato chip resistors to get the right number of course.

      • Blum0108@lemmy.world
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        2 months ago

        Just count the ripples!

        • SkybreakerEngineer@lemmy.world
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          2 months ago

          Careful, capacitors reduce ripples

  • TheBroodian [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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    2 months ago

    I’m too dumb for this joke

    • mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      2 months ago

      I think it’s a joke about physicists not understanding tolerances.

      I remember hearing an old story about a company buying signs from a contractor. The contractor produced all kinds of things, so it was fairly straightforward to send them the CAD file and stop worrying about it. One manager did an audit, and realized they were paying hundreds of dollars each for these basic signs. They weren’t fancy or anything, and were just signs throughout the facility that got updated regularly. So why the hell were they paying so much for what should have been a simple print job?

      After some investigating, the manager discovered it was because the engineer who did the original design for the signs forgot to change their default tolerances from 3/1000 of an inch. The contractor was busting out calipers and meticulously measuring the spacing and sizing on each letter before it shipped out the door.

      • oleorun@real.lemmy.fan
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        2 months ago

        “Fuck, Jerry, this one is 2/1000 of an inch! Rerun the batch!”

        • lennivelkant@discuss.tchncs.de
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          2 months ago

          Wouldn’t that be within tolerance of 3‰?

    • StThicket@reddthat.com
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      2 months ago

      To a mathematician, pi is 3.1415926535897932384626433832795028841971693993

      To an engineer, pi is 3

      The joke is basically the same, since you get resistors in certain values, and it’s necessary to select the value closest to the one you need

      • Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org
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        2 months ago

        To an engineer, pi is 3

        No, to an engineer pi is 22/7, 355/113 if your tolerances are really tight. 3 is pi to a theologist, because that’s what the Bible uses.

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    2 months ago

    What’s the significance of that number? It’s less than 0.1 away from tau, but somehow I doubt that’s it…

    • easily3667@lemmus.org
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      deleted by creator

    • AlbinoPython@lemmy.world
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      2 months ago

      I can’t be arsed to check but I think it’s 2 pi which is useful when dealing with sine waves.

      • Zagorath@aussie.zone
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        2 months ago

        2 pi is tau, which is what I said it’s less than 0.1 away from, but still not equal to.

        • TangledHyphae@lemmy.world
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          1 month ago

          Reminds me of: https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/1292:_Pi_vs._Tau

          And: https://www.tauday.com/tau-manifesto

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            1 month ago

            For me, it was this video. It came out shortly after I graduated high school, and though I was pretty good at maths, I struggled to really conceptualise the fundamental intuition behind trigonometric functions and the (polar) complex plane. Instead, I was relying on brute memorisation of the unit triangles. Learning about tau and how it relates just instantly caused everything to click with me.

            • TangledHyphae@lemmy.world
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              1 month ago

              That’s a fantastic video. I follow Numberphile but never saw this one, thanks for sharing.

  • JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works
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    There is if you have a potentiometer and a steady enough hand!

    • SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org
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      Can you even measure that accurately? Like is it physically possible?

      • Adalast@lemmy.world
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        I thought it had to do with physicists working off theoretical calculations finding precise values for the circuit and not realizing that components come in discrete values.

        • anomnom@sh.itjust.works
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          Yeah, but they could just calculate the right mix of parallel and series discrete resistors to get there.

          It’s gonna make a long BOM though.

      • xthexder@l.sw0.com
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        Based on some rough calculations… no. A precision of 0.0000000000001 ohms is 1000x less than the resistance of 1um of copper with a diameter of 1cm (A piece of wire 10,000x wider than it is long). I’m sure a few molecules of air between your contact points would cause more noise in the measurement.

    • 🇦🇺𝕄𝕦𝕟𝕥𝕖𝕕𝕔𝕣𝕠𝕔𝕕𝕚𝕝𝕖@lemm.ee
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      U probably need a climate controlled box as well.

  • friendly_ghost@beehaw.org
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    And no spherical cows either??

  • Naich@lemmings.world
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    A 6.2R in parallel with a 2.5K is pretty close.

    • Tolookah@discuss.tchncs.de
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      Add in a 400k and you’re better than most tolerances you can find

  • TangledHyphae@lemmy.world
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    Lol this one was great, thanks for sharing. My partner teaches physics and I do EE on the side, I like rubbing these in her face sometimes.

  • murd0x@lemmy.ml
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    Ohm no !

  • yucandu@lemmy.world
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    I used to make shunt resistors out of a pencil and a piece of paper. Rub pencil all over paper, cut strips to size of required resistance.

    • RogueBanana@lemmy.zip
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      That’s cool, could you share some photos? The theramin I mean

    • xthexder@l.sw0.com
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      This is exactly how high precision resistors are calibrated. A laser is usually used to notch out bits of the resistor to tune it after it’s made.

    • SupaTuba@lemm.ee
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      I admire it but also…wtf lol

    • Jerkface (any/all)@lemmy.ca
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      I made a potentiometer with paper and graphite clay once

      • TangledHyphae@lemmy.world
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        Confuses me that anybody would downvote you for this. I’ve made makeshift capacitors out of rolled aluminum foil. It’s dumb, but it worked for what I wanted (triggering a trackpad via stepper motors for testing microcontroller code.) Plus I just wanted to see if it even worked. Life = science experiments.

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    Simple, all you need is a 6 ohm resistor and a 0.18457216 ohm resistor in series.

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      No just get a bunch in parallel!

  • Fleur_@hilariouschaos.com
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    This implies a physicist would do anything practical ever

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    Love how there are so many actual solutions in The comments

    • frezik@midwest.social
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      But not really. At this level of precision, the heat from electricity passing through it would throw off the actual resistance value.

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      Bet they’re all engineers.

  • A_A@lemmy.world
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    Quantum based resistors :
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_Hall_effect
    Quantum Hall effect →
    Applications →
    Electrical resistance standards :

    (…) Later, the 2019 revision of the SI fixed exact values of h and e, resulting in an exact
    RK = h/e2 = 25812.80745… Ω.

    (this is precise to at least 10 significant digits)

    Quantum Ampere Standard
    https://www.nist.gov/noac/technology/current-and-voltage/quantum-ampere-standard
    .
    https://www.nist.gov/noac/technology/current-and-voltage

    (…) Quantum-based measurements for voltage and current are moving toward greater miniaturization (…)

    (there also been research for defining a quantum based volt standard)

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