My wife pronounces it three different ways, each of which she can support. I pronounce it one, but other than that it’s the way I’ve heard it I can’t support my pronunciation even after some searches. What’s yours and why?

  • Otherbarry@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz
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    Like the other commenter I pronounce it sen-tor. Just like the word “dinosaur” I would pronounce die-no-sor if that makes sense. Both words end in “aur”.

    …though now you’ve got me curious about how you and your wife pronounce dinosaur :)

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      coöperation.

      I come from Poland and we read in a consistent way.

      Okay I don’t doubt yours is consistent, but it’s really hard to grasp. I come from Finland and in the Nordics you would never get oö öo aä or äa combinations I’m pretty sure. Å can go with a but a doesn’t really go with ö I don’t think and uhm.

      Anyways my point is I’ve no idea how you would go about trying to pronounce coöperation. Or rather what your idea of it is.

      I’d couldn’t argue which is more constant, but Finnish is every consistent. And pretty much in line with IPA.

      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:IPA/Finnish

      hevonen [ˈheʋonen]

      hernekeitto [ˈherneˌkːei̯tːo]

      tule! [ˈtuˌle]

      Example of words with their IPA pronunciation. When something like “geography” in English is “ʤɔ́grəfɪj”.

      Those don’t look alike at all. So I’m sure polish can be consistent, but to me at least, I’d be afraid of how complex that consistency is.

      In Finnish wr say “kentauri” and in ipa that’s pretty much the same.

      • SchwertImStein@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        Finnish pronunciation feels to me like a subset of Polish. The only difference is the stressed syllable.

        You are saying you never read two vowels in a row? You just make them longer?

        After writing that I see that contradicts the “subset” sentence.

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          You are saying you never read two vowels in a row?

          No. I’m saying the ones which are umlauted don’t go with their umlauted partners. You can äiti easily. That’s mom. But you can’t have Äati. That’s not a word. Ä + a don’t go together.

          I may be wrong because of how flexible Finnish is, but I don’t think a Finnish word exists where there is either äa oe öo combination. Äo maybe, but not likely. (edit def no äo either, just not a thing, I checked the exceptions and now I’m sure)

          Its something calmed vowel harmony, which is sort of why I don’t see Polish as being any where near Finnish. The amount of consonants you guys use is unnatural to a Finnish person.

          Finnish pronunciation is definitely not a “subset of Polish”. Polish is a PIE-language. We’re not even in the same language tree bro.

          https://www.sssscomic.com/comicpages/196.jpg

  • ZoDoneRightNow@kbin.earth
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    Cent as sent + taur as tor. We pronounce most greek c’s as s in english as is cicero or cent being pronounced with an s sound instead of a k sound. Tor is the same as in taurus. Mine is not the only correct pronunciation, my explanation is just the justification for my specific pronunciation

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      There are no Greek C’s. With Greek loanwords into Latin, “k” was mapped to Latin “c.” Then the pronunciation of “c” diverged, with the Catholic Church adopting the Italianate pronunciation of the letter “c” in the Middle Ages, which was not the preferred pronunciation in classical Latin. We know how Latin was pronounced because the Romans actually wrote guidebooks for newly-assimilated Romans on how to speak proper Latin. That’s also how we know that “r” was trilled or rolled-- the guidance was “make it sound like a dog growling.”

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        Back in his day, yes. In modern greek it is sisero and in modern latin it is Chichero. Similarly, in Julius Caesar’s day, his name would have been pronounced Kai-zar and in modern latin and italian, it is Chai-zar.

  • Skunk@jlai.lu
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    Scent-ore

    Simply “englishified” from French where I’ve ever heard only one way, Centaur (100 tor).