Then maybe a 3rd party should get off their fucking asses and start getting some representatives elected locally, so that they can eventually have EVEN ONE representative in Congress, so that maybe some day voting 3rd party for president isn’t the dumbest fucking thing imaginable.
They show up to presidential elections and whine and cry and flaunt their supposed moral superiority, but don’t even bother showing up for midterms or primaries. Shit makes me sick.
That wall of idealism is great if you could get it into the minds and hearts of the majority of voters. I tried myself, back in the late 90s. Seeing Bush win after I stumped for Nader was a sobering wake up call. Can you imagine the guilt I felt protesting Bush’s blood for oil wars knowing that I actively disengaged people from voting for Gore?
FPTP is in control. We are not. We get two choices. Anything else is equivalent to abstention.
Do you know what’s far more possible? Engaging more than 20% attendance in congressional primary elections to replace the centrist Democrats with progressives.
Obviously the solution is for more people to vote third party
Then maybe a 3rd party should get off their fucking asses and start getting some representatives elected locally, so that they can eventually have EVEN ONE representative in Congress, so that maybe some day voting 3rd party for president isn’t the dumbest fucking thing imaginable.
People that vote third party, don’t down ballot vote or vote in mid-terms. They don’t even vote in primaries. Example: Bernie.
Yup.
They show up to presidential elections and whine and cry and flaunt their supposed moral superiority, but don’t even bother showing up for midterms or primaries. Shit makes me sick.
If enough people vote third party than they are voting for a major party again.
Not without an elimination of FPTP ya don’t.
Actually, having a progressive party and a conservative party would be far better than having a conservative party and fascist party.
Correct, but there are obstacles to getting there, including FPTP.
Lol and you and I voting third party leads to that outcome how exactly?
Of all the terrible things happening, I think it’s people’s hopelessly terrible understanding of politics that makes me the most depressed right now.
That wall of idealism is great if you could get it into the minds and hearts of the majority of voters. I tried myself, back in the late 90s. Seeing Bush win after I stumped for Nader was a sobering wake up call. Can you imagine the guilt I felt protesting Bush’s blood for oil wars knowing that I actively disengaged people from voting for Gore?
FPTP is in control. We are not. We get two choices. Anything else is equivalent to abstention.
Big changes requires idealism. Will it happen? I don’t know, but I’m just saying these are the strategies that I can see being at least possible.
Do you know what’s far more possible? Engaging more than 20% attendance in congressional primary elections to replace the centrist Democrats with progressives.
That’s literally one of the strategies I mentioned.
Mexico & Sheinbaum prove that this is not true