The question about the legal and moral aspects of training on works of other artists is related, but a different discussion.

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    8 months ago

    And not every type of gatekeeping is bad.

    The question about the legal and moral aspects of training on works of other artists is related, but a different discussion.

    Thats not the main issue either. The issue is that Corpos rather prompt an LLM than pay for their artists.

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      If AI can create better content than humans can then people will rather consume that. I don’t see why you should artificially limit this. If someone thinks that AI content is not better then that’s who the audience is for the remaining human creators. AI can already create better looking photos than I can, but it has zero effect on my desire to do photography. I don’t see what the issue is.

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        If AI can create better content than humans can then people will rather consume that.

        it can’t create better content though

        I don’t see why you should artificially limit this.

        LLMS limit themselves already, no need to additionally artifical limit it.

        If someone thinks that AI content is not better then that’s who the audience is for the remaining human creators

        Corpos don’t care, ordinary people don’t care. Does it make it still a good thing that Corpos can pump out slop without paying a living wage to artists or atleast royalties to those they took the training data from (with or without their consent)?

        AI can already create better looking photos than I can, but it has zero effect on my desire to do photography. I don’t see what the issue is.

        It pretty much can’t. It only mix and pattern matches existing photos.

        Coming back to my first half sentence:

        AI can’t create and when it only trains on it self it collapes, a short to this:

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWvTr5wKGCA

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      8 months ago

      And not every type of gatekeeping is bad.

      Right?

      “You must be this tall to ride” isn’t because the amusement park hates short people. It’s a safety issue.

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    I think you’re confusing art with « content ». When I experience art (of any kind, painting, music, writing, highbrow or lowbrow), I’m interacting with the artist, their intention, sensibility, politics, etc. I don’t feel that connection with statistically generated images or prompt engineers, sorry.

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    Art is human creativity. By its very definition, it cannot include something lacking originality.

    A person may use AI as a tool to create art, but without human creativity it’s just mechanical regurgitation.

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      Human is the one with vision, AI is the tool. It’s just a much more advanced paint brush that anyone can use. Alone it doesn’t create anything and if the end result is bad, it’s not the fault of the brush.

      AI art is just an art sub-genre like painting, sculpting or photography is. Saying it’s not art is like a film photographer saying digital is not real photography - gatekeeping.