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I know Adobe is a dick of a company but all this event shows is how toxic Bluesky is. Seems the toxicity joined them from X.
No shit. It’s like people who join Lemmy and then complain when it’s too much like reddit. The design of the platform determines what kind of community you get. People on Bluesky are going to bully corpos because that’s what they did on Twitter, and both of those platforms make it really, really easy.
I don’t necessarily agree that this means blue sky is toxic (and I’m speaking as someone who doesn’t use the app), I see it as a toxic company finding out what people think of them.
As you noted adobe is a dick (and that’s one hell of an understatement), and they regularly make anti-consumer choices with their software and pricing. This is just them seeing what you’ve been ignoring for a decade or more.
Maybe the multi billion dollar company should
growsubscribe to my monthly subscription to thicker skin.I reckon it would have been far sweeter if they were completely ignored IMHO. 1000% more brutal. Toxic people tend to need to put it out there.
Thanks just spent a lot tow time over telling Adobe where to go. Great way to vent. Whose next?
They started it by pretending to want to connect with artists.
by charging them alot for using thier services.
I’ve replaced my Adobe Audition with Reaper. I do recommend it
I didn’t, but I do want more people to switch to Reaper so that they can get more money and keep getting better.
Finally lost my reaper purchase after nearly 15 years. Remember when buying it at uni thinking of been a bit hard done by I was only supported till like version 7
Ha ha!
i like how i didn’t even know they were on bsky because they’re already added to the The Great AI/NFT/CRYPTO Cull blocklist.
great, cant view it because it wants me to log in…
heh, not a local problem, even archive.org captured it: https://web.archive.org/web/20250411034219/https://bsky.app/profile/rayday.bsky.social/lists/3jxwojift2y2n
fuck you, bluesky! knew all the time you are not a little bit better than twitter & co
It’s not “it” that wants you to log in, the devs created the site to be entirely public. but users demanded an option to hide their profiles from logged out users. Any hidden posts are because the user explicitly set the flag in their own settings
The api endpoints are still public btw. Third party clients can see these profiles just fine :| not a fan of that decision tbh
if that is the case the site should really do communicate that better. on another post I have seen a warning in the post body that the user’s setting makes it hidden. I understand that. but here? I’m just greated with a login wall exactly like on twitter or facebook, with no communication whatsoever, other than “log in or pound sand”
Can’t think of a more deserving company
#adobyephotoslop
Roffflllll
Time to test out Armor Paint this weekend then.
Deserved. Fuck Adobe!
Honestly nah, there are lots of other good options. Support the devs and people fueling real creativity rather than staying in Adobe’s ecosystem, paid or not.
Honestly nah, there are lots of other good options.
Unfortunately as someone who uses Adobe programs for work, the FLOSS alternatives are just not there yet :/ (especially considering how seamlessly Adobe programs work together)
My partner is a graphic designer and although she undeniably had some growing pains switching away from Adobe, she hasn’t looked back.
Thanks, that’s interesting to hear! Can I ask what sort of graphic design she does?
My work primarily involves CMYK publications made in InDesign, using graphics made in Illustrator and Photoshop. So inter-operability and compatibility with professional CMYK printing are key for my needs.
She also worked with Photoshop and Illustrator. She does many things. Freelance design work for people, as well advertising design for her work. She also does design for our website and ttrpg hobbies.
Thanks, glad to hear the alternatives work for her! Does she use FLOSS ones (Inkscape, Scribus, GIMP, Krita, etc.) or Affinity’s programs?
Affinity primarily.
I use Affinity these days. Although it being purchased by Canva has me very worried.
Exactly this.
Any Lightroom classic alternative?
In the theme of above lightroom classic (cracked)
Otherwise not really. You’re looking at digiKam for the library management side and either RawTherapee or Darktable for editing.
Rawtherapee or darktable for example.
Had me at the first 1/10th.
Top meme
On macOS I found that getting Photoshop to stay cracked was a hassle. This didn’t make me buy Photoshop, it just made me use something else.
I had a legit copy of CS6 for my windows computer, then switched to Mac and was unable to get a copy for it so I kept my windows laptop around for graphic design.
It died and now I use Affinity on my Mac and iPad.
I dumped Adobe completely several years ago, and found that Pixelmator has been an excellent Photoshop replacement. It even now does vector images - used to use an app called Graphic for that (for an Illustrator replacement), but should now be able to do all of that from Pixelmator.
Yeah, I used Adobe CS3 on the Mac for a very long time, because I may have had the activation key for my college’s site license…
That never gave me any trouble. But using other keys or cracks, a real pain in the ass.
Per screenshots of the “skeet,” as folks on the butterfly app are wont to call their posts
What the fuck is this word salad?
bluesky tweet
I’m in the UK this week, it’s how they talk. It’s fun but can be difficult understanding what someone actually means 30 seconds later
English.
The word that’s throwing you off is probably wont
wont
(archaic or humorous) One's habitual way of doing things; custom, habit, practice.Is this some word that’s commonly used in some English speaking countries? I’m a native speaker and have never heard or seen this word ever being used.
As far as I know it’s not commonly used anywhere, and is mostly used for effect.
I think it used to be more common in my parents’ generation.
The only people that are wont to use this are either somewhat pretentious/want to sound learned, or are using it for old timey comedic effect.
Learned is another word for wise or well taught, before anyone asks. It’s said ‘Learned’, not ‘learn-ed’.
yeah, that one threw me for a loop and I consider my vocabulary to be fairly decent. I just assumed it was missing the apostroph to make it “won’t”. Thanks for clearing that up
That’s not word salad.
How is it not? It makes absolutely no sense.
While it may be difficult to start reading books at the point you are at, it seems like it might be worth the effort to overcome the initial difficulties.
Ah yes, my confusion totally warrants personal insults, thank you for that.
That’s fair. Though it was more in response to how consistently negative you were being to everyone else. Like you were trying to prove to everyone else the sentence was as hard to read as you thought it was. I was more attacking the character you were playing with ad hominem, to show you how your position was coming across.
LOL I’ve no idea what you’re on about, I wasn’t playing any “character”.
Well, not at first, but after an hour of everyone explaining the sentence, and how it was a proper well-written sentence, at some point maintaining that you were correct that it didn’t make sense had to start being a character you were playing.
Whether unintentionally manifested through ODD, or intentional, same difference.
Aside from being angry at their choice to call their “tweet” equivalent “Skeets”, which bit confuses you?
Aside from being angry at their choice to call their “tweet” equivalent “Skeets”
I’m not angry, I legitimately just didn’t know that.
which bit confuses you?
…the whole thing? Hence “word salad”.
It really does make perfect sense. There is nothing grammatically or semantically wrong with the bit you quoted. Is English your first language?
It’s okay to admit that you don’t understand what is being said. That doesn’t make it “word salad”
The fact that it’s seemingly a bunch of random words crammed together in a sentence makes it “word salad”.
Operative word being “seemingly”.
Also seemingly: you not being as literate as you think you are.
Operative word being “seemingly”.
I am aware. That’s why I wrote it. It was not an accident. It was not a declarative statement.
Also seemingly: you’re being an unnecessary asshole. Goodbye.
As seen in the screenshot of the “skeet” (BlueSky post), as users of BlueSky like to call their posts.
It looks like perfectly cromulent English to me.
A top reply was posted on another lemmy community:
https://lemmy.world/post/27989752
I can’t see any screenshots from the article, all require a bluesky account. At least on twitter you could see images without login before the takeover. I’m alright if a for profit websites hides “their” content behind a login wall, it’s their choice, but how lazy is this “journalism” where they don’t copy the images, they just link to the original tweets or whatever they called on bluesky.
Not you. take CURSE OF RA [7 incromprehensible egyptian hyroglyphs]
Best reply to a greeting by Adobe
That’s weird. The bluesky links in the article work fine for me, and I don’t have a bluesky account.
Ahh hang on, this one doesn’t work but all the rest do
https://bsky.app/profile/megzavala.bsky.social/post/3lmdz2tu6xk2x
Ahh here we go: it’s a user made setting not a bluesky one
“Sign-in Required This user has requested that their content only be shown to signed-in users. This label was applied by the author.”
Ahh here we go: it’s a user made setting not a bluesky one
“Sign-in Required This user has requested that their content only be shown to signed-in users. This label was applied by the author.”
Why would a user choose to enable that? Would that make it less likely to be scraped by a bot?
Probably the same person who ends all of their comments on Lemmy with that stupid “anti-AI commercial license” or whatever bullshit.
It’s like the polar opposite of “Brought to you by Carl’s Jr.”
bsky started with nine of its posts. wing shown publicly so when they flopped the switch (i think they also opened registration without invites) some people who had gotten used to their post being hidden from the rest of the net felt exposed and the devs added this settings.
while i do not think its a great setting i kinda get it. especially given that there are not (yet) private accounts so that’s the best they have
I can’t see any screenshots
how lazy is this “journalism” where they don’t copy the images
Images of web content usually break accessibility (implicit ableism) unless alt text is provided, which really amounts to a poor substitute for embedding content, block quoting, or linking to source (what the web was made for), where no alt text is needed because the actual text is there.
Stop breaking accessibility: oppose inaccessible screenshots of accessible content.
No
Please stop with the “ablism” thing to shut down anything good but not good enough.
If I can’t see the info on bluesky without an account then yes, a screenshot should be required. Bluesky content can be deleted, but a screenshot stays.
Yes, I know that some people need screen readers and yes, we can improve upon this by, I dunno, making an image format for screenshots that allow for alt text or whatever.
What is not helpful is calling people tomstip using a normal day to day tool just because it isn’t perfectly adjusted for < 1% of the Internet users.
To be really clear about it, I’m not saying I don’t care about them, I’m saying you shouldn’t throw around insults just because someone didn’t do a standard task perfect enough for everyone, or mostly: you
No
Please stop with the “ablism” thing to shut down anything good but not good enough.
What is not helpful is calling people tomstip using a normal day to day tool just because it isn’t perfectly adjusted for < 1% of the Internet users.
Emphatic no to your no. Disabling content isn’t good or helpful. Disabled content is worse for everyone: no source, less functionality, less to corroborate, often harder to read. It’s only “good enough” for people able as you while pointlessly excluding those unlike you, ie, ableism.
16% of the world population experiences some form of disability. Anyone can become disabled temporarily or permanently. With age, nearly all of us become disabled in some capacity. This is as much a matter of self-regard & forethought as it is for regard of others. It is in your interest to have accessible content whether or not you realize it.
we can improve upon this by, I dunno, making an image format for screenshots that allow for alt text or whatever.
A new technology isn’t needed: not breaking what isn’t broken is enough. Better alternatives have existed since the beginning of the web: linking, embedding, or even copying & pasting the text into a blockquote. A screenshot of web content is a shitty tool serving the able-bodied.
If I can’t see the info on bluesky without an account then yes, a screenshot should be required.
That’s a strong argument for pressuring bluesky to cut their crap instead of enabling their structural ableism by taking screenshots. The alternatives mentioned before still exist.
Bluesky content can be deleted
There’s this crazy feature where if you select the text instead of a rectangle of screen, you can copy & paste it. Always been there. About the same number of steps. Wild.
I’m not saying I don’t care about them
Whether you “care” doesn’t matter when the effect is the same as not caring and the simplest actions anyone could take aren’t taken. The effect of that blithe, inconsiderate disregard is structural ableism. Rather than take the easy way out & reinforce this, we each have the power to address it.
Unlike the abstract issues often discussed here far removed from our control, these are practical actions within our immediate control. We all have power with the simplest of gestures to make our content accessible instead of selfishly able-centric.
Choosing not to when we know better indicates who we are. Defending acts to harmfully disable content also indicates who we are.
Emphatic no to your no. Disabling content isn’t good or helpful. Disabled content is worse for everyone: no source, less functionality, less to corroborate, often harder to read.
this is disabled content. we are barred from reading it, unless we register. parent commenter asked one thing: also include a screenshot for cases like this
this is an empathetic no to reading your comment any further
As written multiple times, there are better alternatives. Disregarding them is shortsighted ableism. I suggest some attention span.
better alternatives? linking, embeddib? worthless when the website itself decides thatbit won’t show you the content
quoting? you mean, all of the response tweets? and how do you quote images, videos?
worthless when the website itself decides thatbit won’t show you the content
Businesses are legally bound to make their online content accessible: a screenshot without alt text doesn’t solve this for them. Isn’t it common practice around here to link to archives? Quoting & linking isn’t worthless.
quoting? you mean, all of the response tweets?
Yes. Unreasonable? No, compulsory & common standard industry standard. Out of legal necessity (and market reach), they already write text out (as alt text for all meaningful images). An image of a tweet with replies requires writing all that text out.
Try this exercise yourself to realize how pointless an image of text is (which images of tweets mostly are). Take an image of text, write the markup to display the image, include an
altattribute set to the full text shown in the image. If you have any sense, you’ll return to the source of the image to copy & paste the original text into thealtattribute. If you lack sense, you’ll tediously read the image and retype it into thealtattribute. Your choice.Realize anything yet?
- You’re returning to the source, so linking it is basic sense, right?
- You already write text out, but your effort is wasted as a flat text attribute for an image that adds nothing compelling, only some meaningless visuals of UI artifacts. That text could instead be the main attraction with semantic mark up (blockquotes, paragraphs, lists, etc). It makes more sense to skip the image entirely & quote the text directly: less work, more functional, better.
and how do you quote images, videos?
The way it’s already done. Online news doesn’t typically give screenshots of images or videos. They link, embed, or copy the image or video to directly provide it alongside some quotes.
Selecting lines of text instead of rectangles of screen to copy & paste isn’t a novel, farfetched idea.
TBH it’s better journalism to include the link, but they could do both.
Source can be destroyed. An alternative screenshoot backup/proof is good measure. Especially in web its better to not depend on an outside server.
Like if they close (or some billionaire buy them and requires an account for everything), your content becomes worthless.
Sources can be recovered in archives & web caches. Screenshots can be fake & often break accessibility.
Always prefer sources.
I don’t say “remove the source”, I say “the source can disappear, the way back machine have already been attacked, just do your own copy of the source and make it available”.
I know screenshots can be faked, but if your news source does it it is not reliable. Drop it immediately.
In that case, too, the text can be quoted, then just like magic it’s accessible. A quote that links to the source is a strong combination.
Everyone benefits: the text is searchable, reflowable, adaptable to multi-modal input & output, easy to quote via copy & paste, etc. It’s simply more useful & screenshots don’t inherently give any of that.
Yes. I talked about screenshots because the first message said:
I can’t see any screenshots from the article, all require a bluesky account. At least on twitter you could see images without login before the takeover.
For “text source only” I’m with you quotes are enough.
And if images are post anywhere, always provide an alt text, plz everyone !
If the point is to reproduce an image, not text, then yes, definitely provide those images. Agreed: nothing wrong in that.
Bleets?
Lol, the article says skeet, but I like yours better.
The Sheeples bleat on BlueSky?
Skeets
Some brilliant people invented photoshop
It was a good product but expensive
Some asshole coke head CEO decided to make it more expensive and worse.
Fuck adobe.
GIMP 3 FTW
I still remember when they bought Macromedia Flash and all my animator friends and I simply couldn’t stand Adobe Flash CS3 or whatever it was called. It used more resources, crashed more often and didn’t exactly bring anything revolutionary to the table in terms of new functions.
And they bought Macromedia’s suite and destroyed it.
RIP Fireworks…
Fireworks had so much potential as a web design app and they threw it away.
Illustrator and InDesign were too focused on print media and Photoshop could barely comprehend anything unless it was rasterized.
And they bought Cool Edit and destroyed it.
That’s what big tech companies do, they buy small and promissing companies they think that once can become a competitor and then… destroy it. The young startups just take the money and can retire early.
I miss macromedia flash so bad, actionscript for life
Fireworks for me. I miss that whole suite though.
Now there’s a name I haven’t seen in a while and that makes me a little bit sad.
I once built a website preloader that was so large that I made a pre-preloader for it. Good times indeed.
<insert outdated xzibit meme here> Agreed, the wildest of wests.
A flash preloader was my first real tech job! As I recall, they stiffed my last paycheck and went under later.
But it was incredibly fun and I made connections that steered my career to a new direction for the next decade.
Awesome, what’s keeping you busy these days? (If this is an account where it’s OK to share that on)
Good I hated working in actionscript so much.
And they bought Paintshop pro and destroyed it
Corel bought Paint Shop Pro and destroyed it, not Adobe, though it was an Adobe-style move to be sure.
I think he is old, like me and means aldus photostyler. Which was light years ahead of adobe in background separation.
Photopea represent
Affinity Photo for me!
I’d prefer FOSS but…GIMP ain’t it.
Have used Photopea in* a bind in the past, it’s also pretty good especially the clone GUI.
Bought out by Canva, I also currently love it, but I don’t expect that to last.
FUCK.
I moved to Affinity early this year, and it has been amazing!! I was expecting a long adjustment period after decades with Photoshop, but it’s so similar that I picked it up super quick!
Another vote for Affinity. Excellent Adobe alternatives 1-time reasonable price. Such a breath of fresh air after so many subs.
Just an FYI that you might want to get some practice in with some Affinity alternatives, because they’ve been purchased by Canva, and so enshittification might set in any time.
It may enshittify, but since it’s a one time purchase and not a subscription, you can keep using your version.
Oh that’s really good.
I have been using it for the past 5+ years. It is good enough, and its perpetual license.
Krita is my graphics app of choice these days. But there are many alternatives that are great (like Gimp and Photopea).
Krita is my graphics app of choice these days.
So much of Krita is great and then there is the text tool which is still a heap of trash.
New update coming for that soon!
New update coming for that soon!
I’m fully aware of the feature that has been promised for years and is supposed to land in 5.3. I’m still using Krita, just not solely.
Big GIMP fan. That being said, Adobe needs to start promoting some of their actually good stuff, like their investment in the open C2PA spec for proving content authenticity, vs constant AI crap that is the exact opposite.
Some brilliant people invented photoshop
So the real question is whether Photoshop might ever have become successful, if Adobe hadn’t bought it.
It sure is.
GIMP 3, Krita, Darktable, Inkscape, Kdenlive
if you poke around graphic design as a hobby, these might be fine, but not for professional use from what I’ve read :/
e.g. apparently Inkscape still can’t really do CMYK
Blender
The people editing their images in Blender are the same people who edit their videos in Blender lol.
Has it gotten better with editing? I tried a couple of years ago and just couldn’t. It’s amazing for the 3d software. If they could make it easier to measure things, I’d use it for CAD too.
Maybe I’m doing too much engineering - I found Open SCAD to be way easier than Blender for making stuff, and that’s saying something because Open SCAD is quite a pain.
I can see why for engineering, it allows you to be super precise. I’m not sure the people who developed the CAD side of Blender have ever used it for anything precise or to build details and drawings of any kind. They just seem clueless, there is no other way to put it. AutoSketch used to be so great, maybe the paid version is now. That was different than AutoCAD and Revit, but I loved it.
I’ve always seen Blender as a 3D art tool but never as a precise 3D engineering tool. Didn’t even know Blender had CAD features
I hate the syntax in OpenSCAD. It LOOKS like something object-oriented but it is procedural, causing oh so many footguns, if one expects it to act like OOP.
I’m a mostly procedural thinker, even though I program in OOP all day long. OpenSCAD works a lot like the rest of my code: write it, try it, look at the results, curse, revise it, try it, look at the results, curse differently… you get there eventually. I do highly suggest not coding a masterpiece in OpenSCAD without visualizing the components first.
It doesn’t do it natively, but it does have plugins for CAD features
FreeCAD for CAD as others mentioned.
Sadly FreeCAD is absolutely shit compared to what commercial CAD products offer - and sadly even 1.0 didn’t change their problems.
Depends on your needs. I probably wouldn’t consider it good enough yet for commercial but the improvements on 1.0 take care of pretty much all of my needs. The “free” licenses for Fusion360 and OnShape are garbage and feel like nothing more than attempts to get hobbyists and small businesses locked in before changing terms. Plus, last I checked, they pull the same kinda data vacuum bullshit that social media companies did in their terms - “free” license holders should expect any and all of their work to be resold by the companies for profit.
I believe i recall there being an update specifically to the video editor within the past year or two, but don’t quote me on that. They have done updates to post processing, the timeline functionality, grease pencil, and i believe some other things that would apply to video editing, so i imagine it would be easier to work with. There are cad and measuring add-ons as well, i believe some free within blender itself.
I bought Davinci, so I’m happy with that, but I’ll still check out the Blender version. I can’t really complain about it, it does so much and is free.
As far as CAD goes, they aren’t really usable to be fast in CAD. It’s super cumbersome. You should be able to move things 1" to the right or left, put things at certain heights and move around the space in an easy way. I haven’t found anything that can do that for imperial. Also, the tools for making dimensions is really bad and I don’t think there’s a way to make a blueprint unless you come up with something yourself. That being said, it’s free and it’s not their focus. They concentrate on the 3D portions.
If the units are set to inches for length. You can just type G (grab), X (or Y or Z), and 1 to move an inch in any direction. I think it used to be worse.
I’ve started using FreeCAD for CAD work, I’ve used Fusion 360 for 5 years before trying FreeCAD (again, I tried it a few years ago) and it works pretty good.
It’s different and it’s taking some getting used to but it’s working out quite nicely so far.
You say that like it’s a bad thing lol
FreeCAD (for less-organic modeling)
Photopea, Shotcut
I use Affinity Suite for work. Paid for it once, have it forever. Free updates until new editions, which are discounted if you own an older edition. Buy it for one platform (Windows), that’s a license for that edition of any other platform too. AND they regularly go on special, often to 50% off.
It doesn’t have AI content generation, but it does a few things Adobe doesn’t - like being able to use Photo and Designer from INSIDE Publisher, seamless like its a single program!
Affinity Photo (Photoshop), Designer (Illustrator), and Publisher (InDesign). Then Krita for raster illustration. That’s all I need as a professional
I have some artist friends who saw the writing on the wall after Adobe told Apple to fuck off with the iPad and Affinity said hold my beer. One owns her own publishing company and as of a few years ago all new projects were Adobe-free workflows. She still has Adobe but will only use it for older shit that might still need something later. Going forward, she (and therefore her entire operation) are fucking done with Adobe. Another friend learned both so he could adapt to whatever the market has in store for him and since the market sucks for artists he’s going freelance too and has said absolutely no to Adobe.
Adobe is officially legacy software. Vendor lock in won’t save it as the creatives don’t need industry titans to survive.
Moat of the teams I see hiring designers are still using Adobe, and printshops take .ai files. But most of the solo designers I know use Affinity, and I’ve heard of one (albeit small) team that has swapped to Affinity for their whole team.
Affinity was just bought by Canva so idk how it might evolve over time, or if v3 will make compromises I don’t agree with. But I got v1 during Covid, loved it, converted to v2 as soon as it was available, still love it. Using all of them on the same file in the same window feels amazing.
Another downside is that designers rarely make asset packs for Affinity. But I’m pretty sure Affinity is able to import brush pack formats from one of the other big names, just not sure which (likely Adboe’s .abr)
I don’t like painting in Photo though, but that might be because I’m so used to Krita, which is designed for illustration in the first place. (They’re great, I might donate to them again actually)
Ok, so I’ve tried gimp in the past, but had a hard time with it. Honestly, my Photoshop skills are mostly self taught (and not all that impressive), but that’s the interface I know. How similar to Photoshop can one make the interface in gimp these days? Because that’s probably my biggest hurdle.
Gimp is a little steeper learning curve but if you already know photoshop it’s not that bad.
The tricky thing is knowing what to do when you get stuck. Luckily they wrote a manual that assumes you’re only reading the manual because you got stuck and you’re so frustrated you’re actually reading the manual.
Gimp3 just launched and it’s really nice.
And free.
Bluesky has a lot of artists. Posting this video here: https://youtu.be/I4mdMMu-3fc
I (distantly) knew an indie software developer who was putting up a pretty good Photoshop alternative in 1996: ONE GUY alone in his bedroom was making a decent living selling a Photoshop alternative that he wrote himself. And he wasn’t exactly a super-wunderkind coder, just a guy who knew the photo manipulation space well enough to get enough customers to float selling his software for a few years - in direct competition with Photoshop.
Adobe isn’t selling magic dust ground from precious gemstones by thousands of artisans. They had a decent product that they marketed the hell out of and eventually got overly greedy.
GIMP, Krita, and many others are right up there if you haven’t been sucked into the Adobe addiction vortex.
I use GIMP, but you can’t compare it to Photoshop. GIMP has a horrible GUI and it has very strange design choices.
The Affinity suite is comparable to Photoshop, but it’s a paid product.
I compare today’s GIMP to the Photoshop I used in the 1990s, and they’re not very different at all.
Krita is awesome with a drawing pad
And I’m not like even good at doing anything
Yeah, I got my son a draw-on monitor explicitly for use with Krita. It’s a normal PC too, but it makes Krita much easier to use well.
Gimp sucks. Krita is way better.
They have different purposes.
I feel like I should have switched to GIMP a decade ago.
The best time to switch was 10 years ago. The second best time to switch is right now.
