HUH?! Buy a mig switch?!
My motto is (“Don’t reward bad behavior”) if a dog bites you you won’t give it a treat. So why should we reward nintenDONT for shady Anti-Gaming practices?!
NintenDONT just shot themselves in the foot cause although the price of admission increased the Eye Patches are FREE🏴☠️
This feels like a “you’re holding it wrong” moment.
Big Xbox One release vibes.
“Fortunately we have a product for people who aren’t able to stay connected; it’s called Xbox 360” - Don Mattrick, Microsoft’s President of Interactive Entertainment Business
Except that was about internet connectivity and this is about price. Telling people to go with the old console because they can’t due to a bullshit restriction is crazy, saying it about price is pretty fair. If you can’t afford a current gen console, then the last gen would be the best option. At $450USD it will still be the cheapest console on the market other than the Switch 1.
I’m honestly shocked people are so up in arms about the price. Doesn’t really seem like Nintendo is gouging here, a comparable phone or tablet with the same specs comes in around the same price or higher. It has pretty much every feature people were asking for at about a $100USD premium over the existing Switch.
Raising standard game prices, charging for the tutorial app, and charging for next gen upgrades, that I get the pushback on.
They’re both about price in my opinion.
Personally I don’t feel the console itself is that bad, but $80 Nintendo games, that never go on sale, can fuck right off.
Well, traditionally, console prices were subsidized by the more expensive game prices. They’d sell the console at a loss to then make that back per game. Them raising both the console price as well as game prices is what makes it awful.
We lost that in the PS4 era, seems weird to mourn it now.
I mean, if it’s still shit and it’s getting even worse, I don’t know why we wouldn’t continue to mourn that, or at least call it out.
A base model steam deck is $50 cheaper than this, a base model Xbox series s is $150 dollars cheaper, and it’s the same price as a PS5 slim.
I heard “buy a steam deck instead”
… and emulate switch games
I would imagine the lack of power on a steam deck that, that would suck
What’s annoying about this is that (at least for me) the switch 2’s price is not the problem (outside of the USA, good luck to American Nintendo fans, you’ll need it), I get that it is expensive for a Nintendo console (I probably couldn’t afford one) but it has hardware worth the price (from what I have seen, feel free to correct me). The problem are the overpriced games, £75 (physical)/£67 (digital) is too much even for a Nintendo game. Do Nintendo really think they can just get away with prices that inflated in a market where most families will go “but we already have Mario Kart! Why spend another £430!!”
Not to sound like a fanboy, I mean I am but that’s not why, but I get the Mario Kart price tag.
I’ve had a switch from day 1 and look in the e-shop charts about once a week, and Mario Kart was consistently in the top 20 most sold games of the past 2 weeks.
From a switch perspective, you paid $70 for MarioKart + $25 for the DLC and got a single game a lot of people played since April 2017. In that same time you got 8 Call of Duty games for $70 each ($560) - with the later CoDs charging you $30 for chores or “Battle Passes”. Or you could have paid 95 Fortnite Battle Passes (total ~$950) since the launch of MarioKart.
I forgot the point I wanted to make.
Yeah, but somehow I doubt they’ll pass on an opportunity to double dip and release DLC.
MK 8 is also a previous generation title that Nintendo got to double dip on already.
MK night be a good value proposition for some folks. It’s still too expensive. I have games that I’ve paid $20, $10, sometimes even less for that I’ve gotten more play time out of. Play time to cost is not a good argument.
Let me also contrast with some of Nintendo’s worst practices, like selling 3 old Mario games with no enhancements, that are just emulated, for $60.
if only MK, Fortnite and CoD would be the only three options for gamers then probably MK would win this round.
Unfortunately you comparing your favourite game to two vomit piles full of microtransaction and battle passes so cant see your point there.
If you enjoy the games Nintendo sells go for it, in my opinion the inflated new prices are ridiculous and will have a negative impact on the gaming industry in global as other big corpos will start copying them if Nintendo can get away with it.
Also the greed. Charging for the virtual tour game (however cheap it may be), charging for performance updates to existing games (not extra content, only performance). Switch 1 games should just run better on the new console by default.
I’m not even sure hw is fairly priced. They’re able to sell the same thing in Japan for 100$ cheaper. I don’t think they’re losing money there.
Not to excuse Nintendo, but I think people need to stop being such big consumers. Having new phones and new consoles on release is completely unnecessary; I bet most gamers have bought games that they haven’t even played yet, let alone finished, and are already anxious for a system that hasn’t even been released.
I think we all can be more patient and frugal, and stop following trends and releases so closely.
I don’t consider myself an early adopter, heck I never am, the only time I recall is getting a New Nintendo 3DS Black Friday edition even before the BF (the thing arrived first in Mexico) just because it was a special edition and the only way to get that model here officially… And for a good price even!
The only reason I am tempted to get a Switch 2 is because it probably means it will get exploited easier/earlier than the next batches.
I’d love this comment to be a sticky post on every new thing announcement. Trouble with us humans is we like to really get into a thing that’s completely out of our control, and then we get very upset when it goes in a direction we don’t like. Being able to take a step back and say “ah well, guess that’s not for me anymore” is much better for your own mental health than getting angry at consumerism.
FOMO is a helluva drug.
I both dislike and like how I am called out in this post.
Checks backlog. Yup, currently at 427 titles unplayed. Holy cow, didn’t think it was that bad! And I haven’t even added my free games from EGS.
Exactly! That’s why I love !patientgamers@sh.itjust.works
Ohh! Just joined! Thank you!!
I appreciate this and agree 100%, but there are a LOT of factors besides just having the thing that make it harder than “just stop consuming”.
If you are someone who typically only plays games with friends, it can very much be a case of “Buy or miss out”. I have a group of friends who will probably buy GTA VI and play hundreds of hours of multiplayer together. I know I will not be rewarding Rockstar for their inevitably shitty choices and behaviour with this game (Fuck them for what they did with GTA VI, greedy assholes), and I know this means just…not playing with my friends. I’m okay with that as a thirty something adult, but for others they won’t be able to “just not”.
Then you have all the FOMO stuff - I refused to buy Diablo 4 on launch in protest of prices and Blizzard, etc. But it was VERY hard for me, being aware I was missing out on an exper
Limited time items, exclusive events, etc, can all play a factor for those who’s brains are tickled in just the right way.
I wish it were simply a case of patience and frugality.
Fuck them for what they did with GTA VI, greedy assholes
Did you mean V? And by that I mean: do you mean Online?
V is still a great single player experience for a reasonable price. Online is considered separate and always was, and I can completely agree with what they did to that. I can also agree that not giving us dlc for V in favor of Online updates was crap, too. But R* still gave us a game worth the money that’s still playable right now
If there’s been some huge update with VI that I missed then, well, shit. I think I saw the price went up $10 on some retailers site, but idk if I trust that kind of shit
You’re right. I didn’t consider that it’s easier to play with other people when adopting early. I didn’t consider this.
Oh I can afford it. Still not buying it.
No thank you. Got rid of my Switch and got a Steam deck years ago. Much better.
It would be nice when the switch 1 would grt cheaper though. Its ridiculous how expensive it still is.
Just don’t buy Nintendo.
But how will we play Mario Kart World? Why not release it on Switch 1? Oh that’s right, they want people to buy the new gaming system. Screw others who can’t afford it. It’s just a couple hundred extra bucks. Just put that extra money aside for two months and you will have your Switch 2.
Or… play free retro games on a £50 trimui (linux handheld) from aliexpress!
Uh, okay. Whatever?
Although we still number consoles, in a lot of ways we did get our “tiered” console structure.
Take most people’s daily plays, and I’d say about 90% of them or more have an edition available on the prior gen console. And it makes sense when so many of those games have relatively basic graphics - and when game engines have gotten better at scalability.
So, those consoles are neatly serving as a low budget option for a lot of gamers that can’t follow all the latest and most expensive games. Yes, some newer releases will be fully excluded; but even then, getting a brand new or used Switch or PS4 can introduce someone to a huge number of games if they haven’t been exploring options.
