Sure, there was the attempted assassination of Reagan and the fears for Obama as the first black President, but in those cases it was a lone nutter rather than a conspiracy.
How long can Trump crash the market before an angry billionaire decides to take him out? The remaining Koch brother is already pouring money into legal challenges against Trump…
The remaining Koch brother is already pouring money into legal challenges against Trump…
Wow, it had gotten so bad, huh? For once, the market is genuinely correcting itself!
The master’s tools will never dismantle the master’s house
i still wonder. HOW DID THAT ONE GUY MISS?!
Did anyone actually bother to xray his head?
Darkest timeline, am I right?
Half of me still thinks that whole “attempt” was staged
Exhibit A: The Photo Op with the fist raised
I mean, who the fuck just stands there like an idiot after a gunman supposedly tried to kill you. It’s like they knew there’s only one gunman. Sus af 🤔
who the fuck just stands there like an idiot after a gunman supposedly tried to kill you
The idiot who looked into an eclipse?
Also all the blood. Then no damage on the ear a few days later. 78 year olds don’t heal that fast.
No one heals cartilage. Especially not a 78 year old dottering fool whose primary source of nutrition is McDonalds.
Even if it was a graze and only had skin damage. A 78 year old will have scars and bruising.
I also wondered that, but honestly man there’s almost no fucking way. 😂 That was a very real bullet, that went through his ear, and killed the man behind him. Combine that with all the different random-ass factors others have mentioned with the ludicrously small margin of error. Turn your head at just the right time or fucking die.
Combine that with the shooter being a random child that looks like he had fetal alcohol syndrome, that’s the “man” carefully staging a very near-miss shooting. 🥴 I mean FFS, look at his face. I wouldn’t trust him with a complicated McD’s order, let alone shooting at my fucking ear and not killing me. 😂
The only way it was staged was if you could prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that Trump was very willing to die & become a martyr, which frankly I think he’s not against if it came to that, but it’s very clear the man loves life/living. Trump doesn’t want to die.
A bullet never went through his ear. The FBI amended their statement to say he was ‘grazed’ by a bullet or a bullet fragment, after initially questioning if he had been hit at all (because his medical team withheld all information from them during the investigation - which was unusual and suspicious). I mean you could see plain as day just a few weeks later when he removed the bandage his ear was almost completely undamaged.
Yeah, that was poor wording on my part, probably just because that’s the terminology I hear all the time. I should probably amend that.
It’s true, due to the nature of the ear being really close to the head, the bullet didn’t pierce a hole through his ear. I don’t accept the bullet fragment theory, idk, I don’t see very-very accurate bullet fragments mid-flight. The bullets themselves can tumble or do crazy patterns, depending on weight & caliber, etc. I think the most logical working theory is the fully intact bullet grazing his ear mid-flight. Ears really can bleed heavily even from small cuts/pimples, at least mine do.
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Range - Trump was over
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Equipment - AR pattern rifles ( I think it was a Daniel defense) with a red dot sight. That setup is for quick target acquisition and field of view. It is not meant for hitting distant targets.
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Shooting conditions - The shots were taken outdoors, where there was a cross breeze.
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Difficult Target - if you’ve ever seen trump on stage, he has this weird wobble he does all the time, which shifts his head rapidly and unpredictably from side to side multiple feet. He had to get hit in the head too. He probably was wearing soft body armor at this point, and there are multiple ambulances nearby and he gets priority medical care. Anything less than instantly lethal would not take him out. So it had to be a headshot.
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Counter-fire. There are multiple trained and properly equipped snipers guarding trump. There was an armed policeman trying to get on the building with the shooter. This is not simply lying down at a range and taking your time.
TL; DR - it’s not like videogames.
Range - Trump was over 300 yards away from the shooter.
He was around 150 yards. Not 300.
But if he had a proper target rifle in a better long range caliber and a telescopic sight he would have had a much better chance of succeeding.
At that distance and wind conditions a chest shot would have been better. But he aimed for the head.
He had a 2x optic on the rifle.
Fixed, thank you.
Chest shot wouldn’t work. Like I said, at that point in the campaign, the former president has secret service protection and was probably wearing soft armor underneath. Even then, you would need a hit that is instantly lethal. If you hit the lung, liver, or even a major blood vessel, and he still lives because he has priority medical care on standby, so you would need to hit the heart to get the job done. Heart is smaller than head.
Even with soft body armor. A high velocity round like the .300 win mag or 6.5 creedmoor with boat tail JHPs would still zip through like nothing is there. The cavitation that those rounds make is devastating. Also the shooter tried to go for a follow up shot but missed. Double hitting the chest would have been more possible and that would be much more likely to do it.
I am aware of the circumstances that president’s and ex-presidents have in terms of medical support. All of his bodyguards are probably EMT level trained and they probably have a full on trauma team ready. But getting the head under those circumstances would have been tough.
But then again… if he did have a proper target rifle and long range caliber… the head would have been easier to hit and maybe the wind wouldn’t have blown it off course as much.
Was he using 300-win or 6.5? From what I heard it was 223 or 5.56.
He was using a .223.
The rifle he used was a cheap, bottom of the line AR-15. The AR-15s are so popular and made by so many manufacturers that they have super low end and super high end. He had on the lower end.
I do not know what kind of .223 he was using. But that round has been experimented with for so long that there is a load for every occasion. He probably didn’t use decent ammo. You need something that is specifically designed for longer range, precision shooting. The rounds are much more expensive but you do get what you are paying for.
He also used iron sights. No scope. And he was not known as a particularly good shot. It is actually surprising how close he came.
BTW, the .223 would still have penetrated soft body armor even at that distance. Even military vests designed for combat zones don’t stop rifle rounds until it is fired from a few hundred meters. It would not have stopped a .223 to the chest.
I do not know what kind of .223 he was using.
probably whatever the cheapest range grade round was. I doubt he went out and bought ammo specifically for that.
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Wouldn’t that be a Reichstag fire 2.0
Yep, expect that. I bet thet they are working on that, choosing right “target”.
I can imagine JD vance declaring martial law, suspending democracy and eliminating the “rebellion”
Highly unlikely and I hope to god it doesn’t happen. Imagine the hagiography that would surround the piece of shit were that to happen.
If he keeps pissing off China, maybe.
The left takes more of a peaceful protest and hope for midterms approach.
Idk. The devil takes care of his own.
I’m not sure if he’ll get unalived with funny prejudice, but if I had to give pointers, don’t aim for the head, it’s unlikely to hit any vital organ in there.
Sic Semper Tyrannis: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KivCRqfFcqY
I perfer him to die from the bullet of his own in a bunker (or natural causes after creating a great recession), so that people can stop worshiping toxicity and learn from the mistakes.
If there is no Hoover, there probably will never be a Roosevelt and the new deal.
Gotta also consider the odds that he’s not there for much longer anyway. The Project 2025/Heritage Foundation people got JD Vance in as VP as they wanted–he’s one of them.
So I’ve been predicting since he won that the 25th Amendment will be used (if something else doesn’t happen to him), probably not until after the midterms so Vance can still run for 2 more terms. They need to set up the right conditions before ousting him, which will be making him look physically incapable of continuing, like saying he’s had a stroke or something. Congress/Senate has to believe it so they’ll go along with it.
If we’re being real, it’s not likely at all. He’s probably safer than Biden was.
Not only does the secret service impose incredibly tight security (not perfect, mind you), but Trump doesn’t go anywhere except the White House and his shithole golf course.
In order to assassinate him, it would probably have to be an inside job. That seems exceptionally unlikely.
He’s also useful. A lot of the kinds of people who might wish to be rid of him back in the day would much rather put him to use for their own ends.
It’s hard to say. He’s definitely closer to it than any president since JFK. But security is way better these days. And before the FBI comes knocking on my door, this is just an objective analysis.
We’ve already had a shooter with a near miss. So clearly there’s the will to do this among some segment of the population. Probably a conservative who feels betrayed or person who is truly far left, (not just a progressive).
However, security during the campaign and for JFK was a lot less than it is now. It’s going to be a lot harder to get close enough with a rifle. If you think of a plan the USSS has already thought about it and probably has a counter of some sort.
So while he’s definitely the closest, I don’t think we’ll see another president assassinated unless they do something truly stupid like gut the USSS.
I think by the time we hit 2026 there will be tens of millions who voted MAGA who wish that last year’s attempt would have succeeded, but logistically, it’s basically impossible now. Anything that might get Trump would probably have to be powerful enough to take out a whole crowd, and that’s just very unlikely.
It’s also debatable whether it would even be a good thing. Political assassinations always have ramifications that weren’t planned for, but on the other hand, Trump is basically a cult leader and cults always shrivel a bit when the leader passes on.
You have said the actual truth
Anything that might get Trump would probably have to be powerful enough to take out a whole crowd, and that’s just very unlikely.
Hard disagree, Ukraine takes consumer drones and turns them into pinpoint bombers or ultra fast suicide drones. They are VERY effective.
IMO the only reason political violence hasn’t been more common is people afraid of losing what they have. But they’re soon to lose it anyway.
Except for the assassination of Abe, which was a resounding success by any measure. The perp got everything he wanted and more.
President Garfield also got merked. Mostly the fault of an RFK-grade doctor than the actual shooter, though. I hope we get that for Trump - he deserves to die at the paws of his own incompetent administration.
When that happens y’all are gonna need video proof that you last fucked your couch less that a week ago every time you leave home.
People call the Trump supporters a cult, but this whole thread is calling for an assassination on the sitting president.
Actual comments in this thread:
“Third time is the charm”
“If there is a god, super fucking likely”
“One can hope”
Nothing cult like about that behavior 🤣🤣🤣🤣 just one cult arguing with the other cult.
